lieing about pay

[RhiiBabes]

Basically i got called in to the office and was told that my National insurance number had been cloned. they said it was very seroise as i was in debt with the government as i haven't been paying taxes and my number was being used by someone else so it looked as if i was working two jobs. they said the government kept sending letters home but they were getting sent to the other persons address, and a result to all this is they wouldn't be able to pay me. I have just turned 18 so the main thing worrying me was prison, so i went home later that night in tears to my mum. She said it didn't sound right so the next day we rang up the tax people and some phone line for NI. they told me this was all false information. the next day i went to work and told them this with my mum. my manger said i would get paid the day i was supposed to and they must of sorted it out (the NI told me no one had ever used my number but me) they then said it must be an error. i have been paid, but im just wondering if i can do anything about this, i have quite the job as ovbusily i can't work with them when they have made a disgusting lie, just because they thought i would fall for it and they wouldn't have to pay me. And if i have got a case who would i go to. thank you

[factor-fiction]

It's not a nice situation but I'd be very, very suprised if the company really was hoping you "would fall for it" just so "they wouldn't have to pay you".
I think it was more likely to be an error or misunderstanding on their part.
I'm sorry you felt it necessary to quit.

[sara3]

I'm a bit confused. it is possible to have your National Insurance No (NINO) cloned, or someone else could be using it, equally unaware that it is being shared. it doesn't have to be something sinister but it does need clearing up. the NI people should be able to provide you with a print to show NI contributions into your account, and you should be able to recognise whether there have been duplicate contributions.

tax is a separate issue but again, you can get a print to show the tax you have paid and from what employer.

if you are satisfied that there are no issues with either.. I don't understand why your employer would think they can withhold your pay. are they saying they are paying it towards tax or NI? ask to see the papers to clarify the situation. I doubt there has been a "disgusting lie", more likely a misunderstanding that needs clearing up.

[tamborine]

Now you've really mucked it up! Get your job back by blaming them for false & confusing accusations....it might work. Or

See the CAB for advice on taking them to a tribunal.

[buildersmate]

There are massive inconsistencies in this story.
If someone has two jobs (and it does happen quite a lot), the HMRC office deals with the 2 employers separately. One employer has the employees tax code applied to it and the employee pays PAYE tax and NI normally. The other employer is told by the HMRC to apply the tax code BR to the employee. This means Basic Rate and results in no 'personal allowances' being applied - all pay is taxed at 20%. It is therefore inconceivable that LESS tax than was required is being deducted as the reality is that MORE tax would be paid.
I can't fathom it out either but would feel that it is more likely a very stupid employer rather than a genuine attempt to defraud the employee.
Ask to see the correspondence from HMRC to the employer that led the employer to believe that too little tax had been deducted.

[RhiiBabes]

there's history to the employer and i thought long and hard about quitting, so it wasn't anything rash, the company wasn't trustworthy at all, it was 100percent a lie, i think you would have to personally be working for them to understand. i was going to get a job before quitting anyway because of what they were like, but that really was the final straw, i should of explained so it wasn't confusing but thank you

[dothawkes31]

if you do have two joibs and they are both part-time, you can split yopur tax allowance between the two employers and you will pay less tax.

[RhiiBabes]

because im 18 and still at college i dont pay tax at all anyway

[dothawkes31]

as long as you have filled in the right form at your tax office to say you are a full time student then no you don't but you would still have to pay NI from 18

[RhiiBabes]

yeah thanks i know that. i was just wondering if i could take whats been said further as half the people ive told have told me its seroise and the other half have told me too leave it, so i was just wondering thanks.

[buildersmate]

"If you do have two jobs and they are both part-time, you can split your tax allowance between the two employers and you will pay less tax.
Incorrect, Dot, and I wonder where you get this idea from. You will pay the same tax in total over the tax year, irrespective of how your tax code is divided up.

[Androcles]

There are cases of two or more people using the same NI number - HMRC even have a special section which investigates cases: http://www.hmrc.gov.u...about_contributor.htm

So there could be a mistake but it needs checking with HMRC.