Year 8 at comprehensive

[ClinkatyClank]

How old would someone school student be if they were in year 8 at comp ?

[mrs_overall]

There you go Clinkaty - it is all your fault for not wording the question correctly ;-)

[joggerjayne]

mags ...

1st year of secondary school, 11 going on 12, would be "Year 7"

[ojread2]

If you're going into year 8 in September you will be 13 during that year within dates of 1 Sept 2012 and 31 August 2013

[factor-fiction]

Correct JJ- but it's confusing in that the seventh year at Primary School is called Year 6

[ojread2]

in England and Wales that is

[ojread2]

But it is the 6th year at primary
The first year they do is reception,or an extension of nursery, not school

[maggiebee]

Not at all JJ - grandson started in Primary 1 through to Primary 7 (7 years) and is now going into S1 at age 11. Probably because his birthday is in Oct so he started Primary 1 at school before he was 5.

[mike11111]

Totally at odds with the tenor of this thread, does anyone else, especially those who are or may have been involved in teaching, cringe at the terminology, "Year 7, 8, 9 &c", when it used to be 3rd year, 4th year, fifth year (form) etc.

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

I used to Mike, but once you grasp that school leavers are 16 at year 11, it all makes sense.

[ummmm]

12 when they start in September and 13 when they break up (most of them)

[rockyracoon]

Mike, I'm not a teacher but went to school when it was infants, 1,2 and 3 then juniors 1,2,3 and 4, followed by secondary 1,2,3,4,5 then lower 6th and upper 6th. Much easier to my mind, I just can't get my head round the new way. Even though 6th form is now years 12 and 13, most schools say 6th form in their prosects guides.

[joggerjayne]

Is that in Scotland, Mags?

Here, Primary Year One is not Year 1.

Primary Year Two is Year 1.

So if you are 11 as at September 1st, you go into Year 7.

Although at my goddaughter's old school, she did Infant One, Infant Two, etc ... through to Junior Three and Junior Four.

After finishing J4, she moved schools, and went into Lower School One, and she's just finished Lower School Two.

Why can't everyone just agree on a standard terminology.

[mike11111]

You are quite Rocky, it's still the sixth form, which makes sense to us but must confuse the poor little buggers in Year 11! For some peculiar reason my own school (back in 1960) did not have a first form. New boys entered the second form (first year), followed by the third (second year) and fourth (third year). The fourth year was conveniently called the Remove, so that by the time you entered the fifth form the numbers were back in sync. I never found a satisfactory explanation for this curious terminology, though I am sure that others of my age will recall the Fat Owl of the Remove in the now-banned Billy Bunter books.

[mike11111]

I'm afraid I inadvertently omitted the word "right" between the words "quite" and "Rocky" in my previous post. This is to avoid any misunderstanding.

[boxtops]

I just take aged 5 as being year 1, then add to that. Being from the generation where the first form was first year at secondary school, I still find this all really confusing.

[joggerjayne]

Yes, "Removes" is the year between Lower and Upper schools.

The Billy Bunter books are banned ???

Why?

[dotty.]

my grandson is in year 8, he was born may 1999 and was 13 this last may.

[joggerjayne]

That makes sense, dotty.

I think we've agreed that kids (in England) will be 12 at the start of Year 8, and will have their 13th birthday during Year 8 (or in the summer holidays at the end of Year 8).

[mike11111]

When I say banned I really mean Not Available. I defy you to go into any public corporation library or bookshop and ask for a copy. As to why this should be so, the answer is simple; they are God's gift to the PC nutters. Take, what you will, a BB book at random; therein you will find everything to delight the heart of the modern leftie: class snobbery, academic elitism, ingrained racism, mockery of those suffering from eating disorders, sadomasochistic paedophilia et al... I was forced to read these things as a kid, wonder if I can still claim any compo for psychological damage.

[joggerjayne]

I can't say that I've actually read any Billy Bunter books, but they are like a part of our heritage.