How to work out pro rata?

[TCoys28]

I know that this is a really dumb question, but I really don't know how it works!

If a job is advertised at £18,651-£20,470 per annum fully inclusive (pro rata), 30hrs a week, what does that actually mean?

How much would you get paid?

Thanks in advance

[Flyhalf]

Depends on the employer's rules, but a reasonable apportionment would be 30/FT hours times full time rate.

[factor-fiction]

That is the pay for someone who works full time. Someone who works only 30 hours will get a pro rata payment based on whatever proportion 30 hours is of a full-timer's hours.
So, for example, if a full time employee works 40 hours a week, the person working 30 hours will get thirty fortieths (i.e. three quarters) of the quoted pay range.

[AlwaysConfused]

Full time is is usually 39 hours, so £18, 651 divided by 39 times 30 would amount to £14,346.

[Flyhalf]

You will also need to ask the policy on leave and public holidays if you work 4 days when full-timers work 5. That can be really tricky.

[factor-fiction]

I agree with our calculation (give or take a £1), AlwaysConfused, but I don't agree that "Full time is is usually 39 hours"

[Hopkirk]

Do they say anywhere what the full time hours are?

[furrypusscat]

37 1/2 hours if not paid lunch breaks, ie 5 days x 8 hour day = 40 hours less 1/2 hour per day unpaid lunch break.

[AlwaysConfused]

I've tried googling what standard full time hours are, but it really does seem to vary. I am expected to work 45 hours per week, but usually do 55 plus.

[dzug2]

There's no such thing as standard full time hours -it varies by employer

I'm not sure where part time becomes full time either.....

[factor-fiction]

Hi dzug- I think I remember seeing part-time hours defined as "hours that are less than full-time hours".
It's a bit like defining a sentence as "the words between full stops"

[AlwaysConfused]

https://www.gov.uk/part-time-worker-rights

"A part-time worker is someone who works fewer hours than a full-time worker. There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time, but a full-time worker will usually work 35 hours or more a week."

Sorry, not particularly helpful, but highlights the issue of trying to work out pro rata without knowing how many hours a full timer would be expected to do

[ChuckFickens]

Yep... Part time is defined as contracted to work any hours that are less than full time. but the hours that are full time aren't defined. It's vague to say the least.

[woofgang]

what's the job?

[Ellipsis]

Every job I've ever worked in has had a 7.5 hour "standard" working day although, as salaried employee, sometimes many more hours are worked.

So I'd operate on the basis that it's a 37.5 hour full time week, i.e. that this job is four full (7.5 hour) days a week. Then you're looking at 80% of the pay range given, i.e. £14921-£16376 pa.

Alternatively it could be a 40 hour week, but then to do 30 hours you'd be looking at five six hour days, which would be an unusual arrangement compared to the one above (five short days rather than four full ones). If this was the case, though, then you're looking at 75% of the pay range given, i.e. £13988-£15353 pa.

[Cruciformist]

You need to know what a full week's work is in number of hours; let's say its 35 hours, so pro rata you would receive 30 X salary, then divide by 35.

[factor-fiction]

Until TCoys28 gets chance to return there's probably nothing more we can add

[TCoys28]

Hi all, thanks for all your answers.
I think I kind of understand it now.
I was interested in a job , but pro rata will work out far less than what I'm getting now :-(