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Firstly thanks all so much for helping me thru this whole redundancy situation that i and a few people on here have been going through with the reorganisation of the NHS. For anyone interested, i just wanted to let you know what's happening.
The job i was offered was unsuitable for me because i had to travel too far to get to it, so i appealed, so that turning it down wouldn't jeopardize my chance of redundancy. My appeal was successful. I then went on the redeployment register, in order to see if there were any other suitable jobs for me. I suppose i am one of those "middle managers" that people always moan that costs the NHS too much money, and there weren't many jobs at that level, and none suitable for me, although i was obliged to look at job 2 grades either side of mine.
This morning i recieved a letter outlining my redundancy payment, to be paid at the end of April. I still have to make an effort to find a job in the NHS before the end of march (when my job ends) and i have to provide documentary evidence of which jobs i've looked at and when and why i haven't applied for them (which is easy cause i've been keeping a list) for the audit committee (who have to approve every redundancy).
So now all i have to do is find another job!
The job i was offered was unsuitable for me because i had to travel too far to get to it, so i appealed, so that turning it down wouldn't jeopardize my chance of redundancy. My appeal was successful. I then went on the redeployment register, in order to see if there were any other suitable jobs for me. I suppose i am one of those "middle managers" that people always moan that costs the NHS too much money, and there weren't many jobs at that level, and none suitable for me, although i was obliged to look at job 2 grades either side of mine.
This morning i recieved a letter outlining my redundancy payment, to be paid at the end of April. I still have to make an effort to find a job in the NHS before the end of march (when my job ends) and i have to provide documentary evidence of which jobs i've looked at and when and why i haven't applied for them (which is easy cause i've been keeping a list) for the audit committee (who have to approve every redundancy).
So now all i have to do is find another job!
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bednobs - I wouldn't worry too much about the next job.
If you look at the management structure before..
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the NHS Act, I would hazard a guess that many more middle managers will be needed in the next few months /years.
Good luck with it all in any case.
If you look at the management structure before..
http://
...and after
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the NHS Act, I would hazard a guess that many more middle managers will be needed in the next few months /years.
Good luck with it all in any case.
Because so many ex-civil servants have managed to extract themselves from their employer, taking huge payouts (compared to those on offer in the private sector), Government departments have to take this step of ensuring those being declared redundant have their circumstances reviewed by a few with the bigger picture. Finding jobs of equivalent salary to go for should be straightforward enough - either you will be successful or you won't.
An issue for you may be if you start applying for jobs at a lower salary (because you desperately want continuity of employment) and you get one of those jobs but feel you it isn't what you want.
Personally I would aim for equivalent salary jobs to what you are currently on if you want to assure the package doesn't get jeopardised by inadvertantly finding yourself with a lower-paid offer. Not unless mid-April arrives and you find yourself still hunting. I guess it depends on the level of financial cushion that is up for grabs for you.
It used to be the case that ALL Government departments had a register of vacancies that at-risk employees had to demonstrate they had applied through - especially given the 'mobility' clause in many middle-managers contracts. I'm talking 8 or so years ago - perhaps that requirement is gone, given the overall reductions in civil servants going on.
An issue for you may be if you start applying for jobs at a lower salary (because you desperately want continuity of employment) and you get one of those jobs but feel you it isn't what you want.
Personally I would aim for equivalent salary jobs to what you are currently on if you want to assure the package doesn't get jeopardised by inadvertantly finding yourself with a lower-paid offer. Not unless mid-April arrives and you find yourself still hunting. I guess it depends on the level of financial cushion that is up for grabs for you.
It used to be the case that ALL Government departments had a register of vacancies that at-risk employees had to demonstrate they had applied through - especially given the 'mobility' clause in many middle-managers contracts. I'm talking 8 or so years ago - perhaps that requirement is gone, given the overall reductions in civil servants going on.
thanks everyone again (especially BM)
the financial cushion i will get feels quite sizeable to me, but of course it will only be so if i can find work, so that the money isn't eaten away by daily living and expenses. if i were to get a job at a lower band, my pay would be protected for 3 years (although i seriously doubt the new reciever organisations taking over from the PCT will even last 3 years - they are essentially govt organisations suddenly finding themselves in a competitive business world and i'm not sure they are going to have what it takes to survive) Our redundancy terms are quite good in that you only have to be out of the NHS for 1 month to still retain it, so i could reapply 1 month afterredundancy and get a job in a different part of the NHS
the financial cushion i will get feels quite sizeable to me, but of course it will only be so if i can find work, so that the money isn't eaten away by daily living and expenses. if i were to get a job at a lower band, my pay would be protected for 3 years (although i seriously doubt the new reciever organisations taking over from the PCT will even last 3 years - they are essentially govt organisations suddenly finding themselves in a competitive business world and i'm not sure they are going to have what it takes to survive) Our redundancy terms are quite good in that you only have to be out of the NHS for 1 month to still retain it, so i could reapply 1 month afterredundancy and get a job in a different part of the NHS
I'm amazed that you are being asked to consider 2 grades below you - we only had to look 1 grade below, and be on protected pay (and protected travel too, if in a further-away place). That form you have to fill in to evidence your jobs.... I just printed off the week's restricted vacancies, most of the ones I would have gone for were in Leeds. I did apply for two, didn't get one, wasn't even short-listed for the other since there were essential skills missing (but it was worth a stab anyway!)
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