Teacher Training

[scoobydooby]

My daughter wants to do a Teacher Training Course at Uni next year but she thinks that in order to be able to teach secondary school pupils, she will need to do a degree in another subject first - as opposed to if she wants to teach primary school pupils where she can enrol straight on to Teacher Training without having the degree. Can anyone give me any more info. about this and is she right?

[HMC007]

She is pretty correct.
To go straight into Teacher training from school *(GCSEs or Alevels) I believe you can only do Primary that way.

I am on a PGCE for secondary and had to show my degree in a relevant discipline.. EG I took History and Politics and am going on to teach Citizenship and humanities.

There are a lot of really got 3- year courses to do primary teaching at uni (didsbury campus for MMU) and Muswell Hill in North London are two that I've had friends go to.

[Buenchico]

Teaching is an 'all-graduate' profession. Your daughter will have to obtain a degree. She can either get a degree first, and then do a PGCE course, or go directly into teacher training, to acquire a BEd degree. However, the syllabus for a BEd degree doesn't only cover such things as developmental psychology and educational philosophy; it also requires the study of one or two specialist subject areas. (e.g. my BEd degree is in 'Mathematics as a Double Subject').

For further information, see here:
http://www.learndirect-advice.co.uk/helpwithyo urcareer/jobprofiles/profiles/profile820/
and here:
http://www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit.aspx

Chris

[Buenchico]

Oops!

I've just re-read your question and realised that I should have provided this link:
http://www.learndirect-advice.co.uk/helpwithyo urcareer/jobprofiles/profiles/profile1105/
(With reference to the 'direct entry' teacher training courses, that site states "The majority of these are for primary teaching, but a few universities offer secondary programmes").

Chris

[Buenchico]

PS: I should, of course, have mentioned BA(+QTS) and BSc(+QTS) degrees alongside BEd degrees.

The range of subjects offered for teacher-training degree courses seems to be quite limited. For example, Edge Hill University only offers Design & Technology, English, ICT, Mathematics, and Science:
http://info.edgehill.ac.uk/EHU_eprospectus/ato z.asp

Chris

[Scarlett]

If you teach secondary, you need to therefore be an "expert" in one field at least. So you need to study it to degree level. Then you can do a PGCE in that subject, in secondary level. You can also do a Junior school PGCE. If you want to teach Primary you still have to to 4 years study. It is a BEd (Batchelor of education) which you do as a degree. ie- it is still a degree, but the whole thing is geared towards teaching primary level. Whereas the secondary PGCE is a very quick course on education, classroom management techniques and teaching practice. The assumption is that you already have the "knowledge" to teach the subject, the PGCE just knocks you into shape so you can cope in a classroom. At least, mine did! It was never about "how to teach maths", it was about how to teach.

[scoobydooby]

Thank you all. Some very good answers here and some informative links for me to go through. x

[crestschools14]

Yes of course suggestions can be given but I guess u haven’t mentioned for which city you looking for, anyways you can try & opt for Teacher Training UK affiliated courses as it is the most reliable & standard training option for teachers.
http://www.crestschools.com