If I register as a "free to value" tennant with my girlfriend, live in a separate bedroom. can my estranged wife/mother of my kids claim income from my "landlady" too?

[xpuser8334]

I'm going through a divorce at the moment.
- 2x kids 2 and 4yrs
- she has a new partner
- I have a new partner.
- Decree Nisi came last week, Still waiting for Absolute!!
- CSA involved for monthly payments from earnings.
- She is being unreasonable and will NOT allow me to have access to the kids - to the point she was going to try and get a Non Molestation order on me, but the judge agreed that there was no evidence ot need to do that - (I worked WITH the police - and each false account of something that happened tied in with me working at a police station under supervision)
I'm not a criminal, but work at obtaining evidence against criminals..

The matrimonial house is nearly sold which "I" currently live in and I move my possessions out this week.
Q1.
If I live with my partner in her house, can my estranged claim from my new partner's income?

Q2.
If I reside in a separate bedroom in my partners house, under a tenancy agreement - where it shows I dont pay her, but contribute to the upkeep of the house (a free tenant in otherwords - that doesnt pay)... can she claim from her income then?
I have a bedroom to myself, own wardrobe space, own bed, do my own cooking washing and ironing, even have my own telephone line for my own broadband....

Is this a loop-hole that can be explored?

Your advice will be greatly appreciated.

W.

[ummmm]

No, she can't claim from your partners income.

[xpuser8334]

Cant claim... is that if i register as a tennant? because Someone I work with kicked her bloke out due to having to pay!!!

[ojread2]

claim what? The it used to be that way but not any more. CSA will take both earning into a/c

[xpuser8334]

Hi OJREAD2 - thanks for the reply - I'm talking about the 20% from net income that the CSA already take from my earnings... can they take the same from my "partner" is i reside there as a tennant?

[ojread2]

it will be a % of your joint incomes
Get in touch with the CSA once you move in together
If you try to lie, they will find out

[ojread2]

she sounds delightful!

[VHG]

>>>>>she sounds delightful!

There is always two sides to a story and we have heard only one side.

[bednobs]

i'm not sure that's right. Barmaid was on here the other day and said something about her stepkids and how the csa have no legal right to take money from a partner's income

[xpuser8334]

VHG - very true.... but... there are actually three sides to a divorce.... his side, her side and everyone elses side - which is usually a mixture of the bad points from each side.. - regardless of sides... i have no reason to lie - as the outcome to my initial question would inevitably be the same regardless.
but.. I honestly take your point on-board.

[ojread2]

It has been a few years since I was claiming CSA and then the non residents parents wages WERE taken into account.
It is too early t go looking as I have work xpuser, but I suggest the dot.gov site will tell you all you need to know

VHG, how very correct but we are answering one side of the question not both

[ojread2]

*non residents PARTNERS wages ....

[Barmaid]

Under CSA1, a nrp new partner's wage was taken into account. This all changed in 2003. If you are CSA2 (you must be, given the age of the kids), the nrp new partner's wage is not taken into account. Sometimes the CSA try it on, just tell them to sling their hook.

[tonywiltshire]

To answer both questions under the new rules, since 2003, as barmaid has stated, any income your new partner may enjoy is ignored by the CSA on the basis that it is the parents of the child that are responsible to pay for the child or children. You can relax.

[ojread2]

I'll try to remember that!
Thank you barmaid and tony

[xpuser8334]

Thanks All..
I have no issue paying for my children, and would gladly pay her more OUTSIDE of the CSA.
Yes, you are answering one side, but since I haven't spoken to her since July, I couldnt comment any further on her "goings on" - all I hope is that she is happy, and that my children are in a happy home.
Thanks Again all!

[cathfromsaron]

they can't take into account what is not yours! you do not need any elaborate pretence! enjoy your new life!

cath x

[xpuser8334]

The actual answer is...
If a CSA claim was made PRIOR to 2003 - she can take:-
15% of the household income from BOTH of our earnings for one child
20% of the household income from BOTH of our earnings for two children
25% of the household income from BOTH of our earnings for more than 2 children.
however; after this date, from 2004 (known as CSA2) she can only take the percentages above from MY sole NET income.

Hope people find this useful.

Thanks for all of your replies.