Walking Frames Banned From Auditorium

[SteveandPip]

Just want to check where we stand on stopping disabled patrons taking their frames in the house. A very nive chap on Chatterbank is OK with it, Just wondering what the legal bods might think. We are a small theater in Hampshire. I'm a Duty Manager

[Zacs-Master]

Sorry? Why the new post? Why not just join in with the other thread?

[ubasses]

duplicate postHave you rung your local HSE for advice?

[shoota]

Is that 'nice' or 'naive'? ^^^

[woofgang]

I don’t think that anybody said that they were okay with it, just that it was legal in the uk

[Buenchico]

As I've just posted on the other thread, fire regulations must always take precedence over anti-discrimination policy.

[Baldric]

Why start a new thread, all you need to do is reply to your original post?

[SteveandPip]

Sorry I have just started to use this and am not very adept at it. I hadn't realized how it works. I just thought I'd check the legal angle. We have a lot of disabled here and some are very voiciferous. I've visited the Chelmsford website and I'll copy that to work. I'll phone HSE Monday. I also promise to work this site out. Also we've just been given this instruction, the boss is on leave, my opposite number is on duty tonight for Mr Amos and we're worried about being discriminatory. Thank's guys

[Peter Pedant]

Hi Steve
is this you ?
http://varnished.dailyecho.co.uk/news/14242283.Woman_called__a_fire_risk__at_cinema_because_of_her_wheelchair/?ref=rss

I have to say I am not sure if BC is right
The fact you have taken a walking frame from some old crud crawling into your theatre clutching her widow's mite doesnt make her able bodied

and I still think you have duties to disabled people, whether ot not you have plonked them OUT of their wheel chairs and onto comfy cushions in the middle of the auditoriums ( so they dont get trampled in a rush for doors in an emergency see ?)

Fire Safety - from a site - NI in fact I think but I cant see that there is much difference to Hampshire

"Part R and BS8300 are limited to access to, into, within and use of a building and do not extend to means of escape for disabled people in event of a fire.

"Part E Building Regulations (NI)

"Part E Building Regulations (NI) and Technical Booklet E “Fire Safety” sets standards for building fire resistance, means of escape from a building and access for fire fighting.

"Fire and Rescue Services (NI) Order 2006

"Fire and Rescue Services (NI) Order 2006 requires the management of buildings to assess egress policies to address the evacuation of all staff and visitors from the premises, including all people with disabilities.

"The Fire Safety Regulations 2009 require building owners or managers, to undertake a Fire Risk Assessment and create Evacuate Plans to include Personal Emergency Egress Plans for all known and unknown persons who may require assisted evacuation.

"guidance is available in BS 9999 2008 Code of Practice for Fire Safety in the design, management and use of buildings which superceded BS5588 Part 8 1999 Fire precautions in the design and construction of buildings – Part 8: Code of Practice for the means of escape of disabled people."

[Baldric]

///some old crud crawling into your theatre///

Very respectful PP, well done.

[retrocop]

Balders I missed the full moon these last two nights. :-(

[Peter Pedant]

// ///some old crud crawling into your theatre///
Very respectful PP, well done.

no, I thought it was quite .... literary

and reinforced the idea that taking away the wheel chair or walking frame of a user - doesnt convert them into Apollo resurgens but they stay disabled and the theatre therefore still has duties to fulfil

actually I think doing that ( removing the wheelchair ) makes them MORE disabled ....

Retrocop and Balders ( are you still the 19 st rugby ref or is that someone else ) as bleeding heart liberal kissie wissie tree - huggers ?
O well I thought the change must come ... and as someone has already commented aaar it be a full moon outside it be.....