Went To Citizens Advice To Waste An Hour

[philkool]

I went for advice about a housing problem and came out feeling like a criminal.

Anyone else got this feeling after a visit to CAB ?

[Old_Geezer]

No.
Do tell.

[hc4361]

I have used CAB twice and both times it was useless. I wasn't made to feel like a criminal, though.

I have heard excellent reports from other users so I assume I was unlucky

[philkool]

I have had a section 21 notice served on me after 25 years paying rent on time,
so i thought as there was a few discrepancies on the notice and the tenancy agreement i could at least get a bit more time to vacate the property,
but was told its all irrelevant and if i fight it i will get the costs of the court .

[hc4361]

Have you been given at least two months to vacate, phil?

[philkool]

Also the CAB said i have no right to be given the owners name and address , but Shelters site says its a criminal offence if the letting agent does not give me the owners name within 21 days of me asking by recorded delivery .

[philkool]

Yes the section 21 says 2 months , but thats nowhere near enough time to find another property.

[hc4361]

You do have the legal right to know the landlord's name and address:
http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2014/05/29/a-tenants-right-to-know-his-landlords-address/

[EDDIE51]

You seem to have a very poor CAB. In all the dealings I have had with mine they have been brilliant. How did the 'make you feel like a criminal'??

[sinderella]

They are volunteers you know?
I have found them to be very helpful to people who i have recommended them to

[Peter Pedant]

very good on debt

and very helpful on appeals for benefits

altogether well worth the money ( er that I dont pay but I pay thro taxes )

[philkool]

I felt like i was living in a house that i had rented for 25 years and was being told its the owners property and they want it back so they can sell it .
My reason for wanting to know who owns it is that the letting agent has not replied to my email with a price to at least give me the chance of buying the property, maybe they just want me out so they can increase the rent.

[hc4361]

They are not all volunteers, sinderella. A generalist adviser, working 22.5 hours a week, will be paid around £13k in Lincoln

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/how-citizens-advice-works/job-and-voluntary-opportunities/job-opportunities-in-citizens-advice-bureaux/generalist-adviser20/

[philkool]

I will carry on paying the rent and let them get a possession order and see where that goes .

[Peter Pedant]

O good this is in law section

s21's are governed by straightforward statute and case law
If it is on a preprinted form it is probably pukka
they [CAB] would know

what do you think is wrong with it ?

Once properly done it is really all automatic ( accelerated possession )

http://www.burnetts.co.uk/business/buy-to-let-residential-property/assured-shorthold-tenant-eviction-scheme/section-21-or-section-8

the grounds usually successful is that the s21 notice is defective or
the deposit was not paid into a scheme ( doesnt apply to you)

on the facts given
you were given good advice
( and told not to waste your money)
find somewhere else and move out
sorry

[EDDIE51]

If the S21 has been correctly served there is little , if anything, the CAB can do. Are you single philkool or are there other family living with you?
You need to apply to your local council for emergency accommodation, I am astounded the CAB did not tell you that!
Shelter are very good in this situation, better than the CAB !.

[Peter Pedant]

No DON'T let it run to a possession order
and then think "oo-er where am I gonna live now ?" - I was given 8 weeks and now I have eight minutes !

the stats for that is .... 90% lose all their possessions
[ Close the door and walk down the street on The Day - and never collect possessions which then go into a skip ]

[EDDIE51]

Shelter web page here
http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice
They have a free telephone advice service call them!!!
They are a lot better than the CAB as this is all they do !!
Please call them, it will cost nothing and at least you will get correct unbiased advice!

[Peter Pedant]

// You need to apply to your local council for emergency accommodation, I am astounded the CAB did not tell you that! //

we dont know if they did

some council show no interest until someone turns up with children and say I have been kicked out and I have nowhere to go

One possession order I got - they came back and said - it is dated and not timed so the council has said it is not valid
and I said 'close of play on the day that is 1700 on 21st whcih I note is after the council offices close
and they said they wont do anything
and I said you are still out

[the child molesting convicted eldest son tried to burn the empty house down later that night - but his father had left the burglar alarm number which I had armed]

[Peter Pedant]

eddie
he has standard good advice
which he needs to act on and not say to us
can I have a second opinion please the first lot of advice was crap ?

[philkool]

The section 21 has a dissolved company as the landlord , where as the tenancy agreement which i had to ask for on 5 occasions has another name as the landlord , also the land registry search shows a totally different name as the property owner .