Law Touting for Hire

[junior2007]

I had my licence endorsed with 8 points for touting for hire or soliciting passenger. I was also fined and also cost awarded against me of about �600. I think this is not fair. I already had 3 points previouly. Please let me know your views and experiences.

[velvet lady]

u r funny!!!!!!! this should be in the joke section love. shall i tell the editor?

really funny!!! got anymore jokes?

shall i jump in your cab for some fun? i like it in a fake cab

[NORMANTHEDOG]

its people like you,who give the proper licenced cab drivers a bad name,lets hope you get banned asap.

[cazzz1975]

you were right to be done, you have driven without passenger liability insurance, you also dont have a hackney carriage license.

why is that unfair?

[junior2007]

I have been unfairly treated as I was given 8 points by the magistrates court today for touting for hire/soliciting for passangers. I was also made to pay a total of �600 in fine and cost. I already have 3 points in my licence and still under my probationary period of having my licence for less than 2 years. Can I appeal this decision, can one get disqualified for an offence of this nature. I eagerly await your reply. Serious answers please, preferrable people who had had similar experience or lawyers who can contribute in a positive way please!!!
Regards

[velvet lady]

its a joke thread, lets leave him alone, its funny!!! dont be wound up by him (or her)

junior, let it go love

[junior2007]

velvet lady please let's be serious

[cazzz1975]

yes, In fact considering its your probationary period you have been treated very leniently..

[junior2007]

cazzz1975, thanks for your response, please confirm if you had had experience like this in the past or if you are a lawyer. Thanks!

[junior2007]

I have been unfairly treated as I was given 8 points by the magistrates court today for touting for hire/soliciting for passangers. I was also made to pay a total of �600 in fine and cost. I already have 3 points in my licence and still under my probationary period of having my licence for less than 2 years. Can I appeal this decision, can one get disqualified for an offence of this nature. I eagerly await your reply.
Regards

[junior2007]

I was given 8 points for touting for hire/soliciting for passangers. I was also made to pay a total of �600 in fine and cost. I already have 3 points in my licence and still under my probationary period of having my licence for less than 2 years. Can I appeal this decision, can one get disqualified for an offence of this nature. I eagerly await your reply.
Regards

[junior2007]

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[factor-fiction]

Why, are you taking more fare bookings?

[busta233]

You should be banned - i warn my daughter about prats like you when she goes out with her friends.

There are taxi drivers out there trying to earn a honest living and people like you rae giving them a bad name. You deserve all you get.

[redcrx]

sorry, can i just ask, what was the amount of the fine?
did you get points at all?
had you had any points already?

[New Judge]

Well, junior, I�m not sure if you are winding AB-ers up or not, so here�s a serious reply which I hope will help.

The law says that to ply for hire a driver and vehicle must have a �Hackney� carriage licence. Additionally almost all local authorities now licence �private hire� (i.e. mini-cab) operators and their vehicles. Although licensed these drivers may not ply for hire but can only take pre-booked fares. These laws are administered mainly by local authorities, but national legislation sets out what taxis and private hire vehicles are allowed to do � it is not subject to local variation.

As far as I can see (though I may be wrong) Hackney Carriage offences do not carry an endorsement. However, as has been pointed out, plying for hire almost certainly invalidates your motor insurance and, although you have not said so, I suspect that driving without insurance is the basis of your conviction.

Driving with no insurance carries a mandatory endorsement and either a disqualification or between 6 and 8 penalty points. So to answer your specific questions: Yes you can appeal against the conviction or sentence.

This must be done within 21 days of conviction.

Yes, you can be disqualified (but you have not).

One aspect you may not have considered (or not mentioned) is that, by accumulating 6 points within two years of passing your test your full licence will be revoked. This is done by the DVLA, not the court, and they may not yet have contacted you. You will revert to provisional status which means another driving test (both parts). You cannot appeal against this � you can only appeal against the offences which attracted the points.

I cannot see that you have been unfairly treated. The sentence seems in line with sentencing guidelines. However, if you�d like to tell me why you think you�ve been unfairly treated (that is, differently to anybody else in similar

[New Judge]

(cont'd)

circumstances - not just that you don't like what's happened to you) I might be able to help.

[junior2007]

New Judge, I thank you very much for your academic and well researched reply. Please confirm if you're a lawyer; solicitor or barrister etc. Once more thank you.
Regards
Junior

[New Judge]

I'll neither confirm nor deny whether I am or ever have been in any of the occupations you mention, junior. That's what makes AB interesting - you never know who you're dealing with!

What I will say is that all the information I have provided is available to anybody - not just those in the legal profession.

[velvet lady]

come on guys, u can tell its a fake thread!!!! just the way hes written it to start with!!!!

and hes a newby and isnt that wot they do? i did!!!!!!!

stop reacting to him, he must be loving it, u all getting uppittttttty!!!!!!!

i`m starting a thread "my baby is so damn ugly, i gave him away" "help, have i done the right thing"