Force the Force

[Generalali]

How can i force the police to provide me with an Audit Trail which contains evidence/information that would clear me of a crime i did not commit?

[jackthehat]

Have you been charged with this crime?
Have you been prosecuted for this crime?

[anneasquith]

get legal representation.

[New Judge]

If you are charged with an offence the prosecution is bound to supoply you with all the evidence it has in connection with the case (whether it intends to use it against you or not).

As has been suggested, if you are charged get legal representation and arrange for full disclosure of the evidence.

[Generalali]

I have been convicted of an offence but the audit trail i want did not form any part of the prossecutions case, and i was not represented

[New Judge]

Unless you intend to appeal (which you must do within 21 days of conviction) there is little point in seeking this information.

[jackthehat]

You had NO legal representation?

Why do you believe that you can clear your name, now, rather than pursuing all avenues of defence PRIOR to conviction?

[exdc]

Interesting question. Did you examine the prosecution file prior to the court case including schedules of unused material etc?

[Generalali]

My offence was minor. Public order. I was given a penalty notice that i did not take seriously( i had never been in trouble before) I opted for court but could not get funding.The police told blatant lies in court and i was found guilty. I appealed but had to withdraw my appeal because i could not get representation. From start to finish i have been very naive and unprepared. If i can obtain this audit trail i can prove the case against me was fabricated.

[New Judge]

Unless you intend to embark upon a course which will effectively lead to a charge against the police for perjury or attempting to pervert the course of justice there is no mileage in this. Any appeal is now time expired.

The CPS will have to take on the perjury or perversion matters and they will obtain the material you think might be useful.

[Generalali]

Can i cite Article six HRA to get a retrial, because i was not represented and i wanted to re question the main witness only to be told he had left. When adjourned for verdict, i went outside and the main witness was there....

[jackthehat]

I think now is the time to get yourself a solicitor............

[Generalali]

Solicitors seem disinterested as if its too petty. To me its principle.

[jackthehat]

Of course it's important to you.
Perhaps you should have taken it all more seriously at the start?

I think you are just going to have to accept that your conviction will stand.

[Canary42]

You colud alert the Police Complaints Commission - but don't hold your breath.

http://www.ipcc.gov.u.../your_complaint_.aspx

[Generalali]

Too late, happened 18 month ago, and ive heard the IPCC are not fit for purpose

[Generalali]

Is there not any order i could apply for through the courts?

[jackthehat]

I think the fact that you have taken 18 months to decide to do something about this will seriously compromise your ability to do so.

You have ample opportunity right at the very beginning to 'take it seriously' and didn't........unfortunately, for you, those officers of the Law, in whichever capacity, DO take the Law seriously and are disinclined to look favourably on those who treat it in such a cavalier fashion.