Bitey Dog

[Ice_T]

Left my dog tethered outside Asda while I got a few bits. While I was inside someone started petting my dog and got bitten by him. She started shouting at me when I came out that I shouldn't leave a fierce dog unattended and I told her that you shouldn't go petting strange dogs, and in any case my dog is far from fierce as my cat beats him up. She left in a huff saying she would go to the Police with a copy of Asda's CCTV footage but she never thought to take my personal details first, so I never gave them. Need I worry?

[Gizmonster]

I don't think Asda have to show you the footage.
I was assaulted in a pub aaages ago and it had CCTV.
I asked the pub if I could see the footage and they refused to show me. I went to the police and they examined the footage. I asked the police if I could see the footage, as I might recognise the guilty partner - the police refused to show me .... citing all kinds of reasons ... so I'm assuming this case would be similar to mine regarding the CCTV footage .....

[Baldric]

I was just trying to clarify a point of law, in your 0834 post you suggested Asda had to comply with a request from a member of the Public, that is what I questioned

[RATTER15]

I personally hate to see dogs tied up, you never know who is about, what if that person decided to give the dog a good kick for biting, there are many people around that would do that, certainly not a risk I would take!!

Were you aware that your dog bites?

[Svejk]

Blimey Giz, how many partners have you got? ( I was going to say, 'you lucky devil'. But not really if they're beating you up.)

[Retrochic]

I thought one was not supposed to be judgmental in the law section.

[Svejk]

Depends which clique you're in, Retro. ;-)

[Retrochic]

Svejk tout à fait vrai mon chéri

[ummmm]

Who is being judgemental?

[venator]

You might stay away from that branch of Asda for a while in case she's watching out for you.

[Retrochic]

The person who got bitten has not got your personal details. Even if the dog is seen to bite her on the CCTV they do not know who the dog belongs to nor do they know you. It is hardly worth Police time to start a manhunt for you over a dog bite. Take it as a warning not to leave your dog tied up and also perhaps buy a muzzle for when you are walking the dog in public.

[Prudie]

Did she show you a bite mark? I doubt it will go any further. Wise parents would teach children to never approach a dog tied up or in a car. They are guarding and the sweetest of dogs can react. Take the good advice of using a muzzle when in public areas.

[Baldric]

Might have known it would be easier to Google it myself!

The answer is Yes they would need to comply

https://www.gov.uk/request-cctv-footage-of-yourself

[Peter Pedant]

Yes you should worry
you shouldnt take a bitey dog out without a muzzle

although I have to say when a drug-dog ( animal kept by a drug dealer and used as an enforcer ) mauled my labby, I went to the police with the details and they basically had something better to do . 'My dog bites or attacks other dogs' the silly fellow and I said why do you take him out then for chrissakes ?

and all the dog walkers on the vale cheered when they finally went round and shot it about 9 months later.

[Peter Pedant]

I am not sure if Giz is right....

I use the Freedom of Information act a lot and this would be under data protection.

and I am pretty sure that the ICO site tells you how to do it.

There is a let-out that it is only used for crime detection but somewhere there should be an address to apply to for the footage

I had to start on this when I was accused of bilking (petrol) and I knew the CCTV would show me putting a card in the machine ( coz the credit card co said the transaction had started but not completed )

[anneasquith]

the dog or the drug dealer ?

[Baldric]

PP, see link @ 0919

[bednobs]

the law says that your dog must be under control when in public. Clearly allowing the dog to bite someone isn't having it under control. Therefore in law you and your dog are in the worng (well you really, not the poor dog)
I suppose the outcome will hinge on how badly the woman was bitten (if for example she had to have treatment for the bite, the medical staff may encourage her to contact the police) If it was just a nip, she probably wont do anything, but who knows. One thing for sure is to learn a lesson from this by always complying with the law and having your dog under control. If he had bitten a toddler who wandered too close to him, you could have been looking at a far far worse situation and if a child is permanently harmed or scarred for life by your dog, it's a bit lame to say "well you shouldn't have gone near him"

[hc4361]

bednobs is right. All dogs need to be under the control of the owner and owners can be prosecuted even if the dog bites somebody in the owner's home since the recent law change.

Leaving the dog tied up outside a supermarket where unpredictable things can happen is not having the dog under proper control.

If she does go to the police the police can get CCTV footage and identify you, especially if you paid by credit / debit card or cheque.

[anneasquith]

well, lessons have been learned . ice, won't leave his dog unattended again, and the lady won't approach an unattended dog . positive result in a way.

[Peter Pedant]

Thx Baldric for that link

short and to the point....