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nailit | 16:31 Sat 21st Jan 2017 | Law
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Just tried to access a programme on BBC iplayer and got a pop up informing me that the law has changed and you now need a licence to view catch up.

1) How would they know if you were viewing?
2) If tv licencing were to pay a visit to your home, would they have a right to take your laptop to analyse if you had been viewing iplayer?

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//It is unclear exactly how the new rules will be enforced.//


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37226030
I think it's very unlikely they would ever know or follow up. Seems a silly law- in fact licence abuse is so easy I wish they would just scrap it altogether and perhaps require a paid subscription just like for Sky etc.
But maybe at some point they will require you to enter a PIN code/confirm a licence number, just like when you use online banking
I consider my 40p per day as a subscription to lots of channels - I am happy for it to be left as it is.
It's just like them asking if you're over 16. They have no way of knowing.
Silly question why would you not just pay the licence?
Course not, you make your choice.
If you want to leech off the decent licence paying folk, carry on.
It's unclear how they can find people - or prove that they are watching iPlayer without a licence. I think it's actually just the first step to making iPlayer a proper pay-to-view service.

On a slightly wider view of the subject, they really missed a trick when we went from analogue to digital.

They should have encrypted all the BBC channels and required purchase of a smart card and subscription to watch them - either when broadcast or online.

That would have stopped a lot of whinging - and also flushed out a lot of the "I never watch BBC" fibbers.

I continue to be fascinated by several people on here (no names, no packdrill) who are avoiding paying a licence fee "because I don't watch live TV and certainly not the BBC", but routinely comment on programmes and events as they are broadcast on the Beeb.
As more and more people watch on laptops rather than TVs and as more people become eligible for the free over 75 licence I can see a situation in a few years time when the money raised will fall by a further 20% - so there may come a point where the licence fee has to go up quite a bit to make up for the freeloading. Some may still be happy to pay it though, i accept that
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OK guys thanks.
I havnt had a tv licence for years and now iv got rid of my tv, they are asking me to buy one :-)
//Silly question why would you not just pay the licence? //

I'm guessing Nailit doesn't have a television - hence the question.
Oops. Cross posted.
The ISP providers have to keep a record of your browsing history for 12 months - that includes phone providers.
So the ISP can show you've access the iPlayer but whether or not the BBC has the right to that information, I don't know
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//If you want to leech off the decent licence paying folk, carry on. //
Thats very kind of you, thanks
I pay for my licence, so, I am very kind.
If you have any kind of equipment that can receive tv broadcasts, you're supposed to have a licence. If a licensing inspector knocks on your door, and asks if you have a licence, you either say 'yes', in which case he'll ask to see it; or you say 'no', in which case he'll ask if you have any tv-receiving equipment. He might ask to enter your house and have a look around. He won't know if you've been watching iplayer, or anything else. If you have the equipment, but no licence, he might issue a summons.
OK but I cannot see why you would deliberately break the law?

Nevermind it is your choice. It is up to them to prove that you watch iplayer perhaps they have seizure notices.
I know that there is no logic but -

I don't have a TV but I have a licence. I rarely watch catch- up TV BUT I watch some things on YouTube.

The BBC used ave excellent animal programmes
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//He might ask to enter your house and have a look around//
And you can tell them 'no you cant' and withdraw their implied right of access.
Yes, Nailit...it's because you can watch live TV now.

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