Crime Committed In 1962

[fruitsalad]

OH has a crime he committed in 1962 served his time for it and yet it's still shows up on his record, he's 71 now, do the crime you certainly do the time, for the rest of your life by the looks of it.

[Jackdaw33]

He would have only been 16. How serious was the crime?

[bednobs]

as it should be

[hc4361]

Has the criminal record had a negative impact on his career, fruitsalad? Or other aspects of his life?

[fruitsalad]

Breaking and entering a wooden cricket hut JD

[pastafreak]

^^^...that's a bit harsh if you don't know what the crime was. As jd says,he was only 16.

[fruitsalad]

Not really hc because he's been self employed but recently he needed a CRB check and it's on there.

[hc4361]

Was the CRB check anything to do with contact with vulnerable people?

[Jackdaw33]

He got time for that? As he was only 16 I presume it would have been Borstal.

[fruitsalad]

He was remanded in a remand centre for 2 weeks as there was no vacancies in borstal, he then was given probation.

[fruitsalad]

Yes hc to do with helping out where vulnerable people but he has not commited a crime, to do with vulnerable people that part of it is clear.

[rockyracoon]

To work with vulnerable people you will need an enhanced DBS check, that shows all convictions (and I think more).

[fruitsalad]

It hangs over you, for a hell of a time, it was hardly the crime of the century and at 16 years of age, I'm not condoning it, but it's no surprise people that have committed crime go back to it, if you are held back by your past forvthe rest of your time, even after you've paid for it.

[bednobs]

but you just said he hasnt been held back.

[Mamyalynne]

It would be a shame if this stopped him helping others.

[ladybirder]

If he hasn't committed another crime in over 50 years I think that's a bit harsh, especially for a crime that attracted only probation at the time and was committed at 16 years of age.
It hasn't held him back until now because he's been self employed. Not many of us didn't do something daft in our youth.

[ladybirder]

Would you say he was a trustworthy person now fs?

[gness]

FS......have you looked at...infohub unlock? If not have a google and see if you get any information there....x

[Buenchico]

>>> He was remanded in a remand centre for 2 weeks as there was no vacancies in borstal

That's why the offence still shows up on a DBS check then. In 2013 the Court of Appeal ruled that the automatic disclosure of all offences (irrespective of how long ago they took place) on a DBS certificate contravened Article 8 of the Human Rights Act. So the Government introduced legislation meaning that where a person only has a SINGLE criminal conviction (which is not for certain specified offences, such as sexual ones) that conviction will be wiped from their DBS record after 11 years (or 5½ years if they were a juvenile at the time of the conviction) UNLESS that conviction resulted in any form of custodial sentence.
http://hub.unlock.org.uk/knowledgebase/filtering-cautions-convictions/

Last year the High Court effectively ruled that those changes don't go anywhere near far enough:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35383037
However the Government hasn't yet introduced further legislation on the matter.

[Flonska]

A CRB check will list ALL criminal offences someone has ever committed. If a CRB check is not required then an offender may not have to disclose the conviction under the if it is deemed to be "spent" as defined in the Offender Rehabilitation Act 2014.

[Jackdaw33]

In my understanding remand is not a custodial sentence. His sentence was probation.