I've Been Charged With Section 20 And 39 I Broke A Cheek Bone Eye Socket And Wrist What Can I Expect

[Chinnyone1]

I broke a cheek bone wrist and eye socket I've been charged with section 20 and 39 what can I expect

[Buenchico]

PS: Even if you could prove that it was actually one of the other attackers who inflicted the serious injuries, it wouldn't help you.

The law on 'joint enterprise' means that when a group of people assault someone they are all equally guilty of causing the injuries which result from that assault. (So if one of the other attackers had knifed the victim, resulting in his death, you would be just as guilty of murder as the guy with the knife was).

[Jackdaw33]

That is what sent Bentley [1953] to the gallows, even though he was under arrest and in police custody by the time the murder was committed.

[Chinnyone1]

Ok so from you are saying it looks like we will all face custodial

[allezbleu]

I'd say so. Barging into a property, with a group, and beating up the owner in front of children, will likely lead to custodial. The fact that you pleaded 'Not guilty', despite the evidence isn't going to help you, you having children of your own isn't a mitigating factor either. Only single mothers tend to get that taken into account. Have you shown any remorse, have you apologised to the victim? Your defence counsel will have to try to convince the judge/jury that the attack wasn't pre-meditated, if it was, and with the other factors taken into account, then a custodial sentence is the likeliest outcome.

[hc4361]

Are you a single mother?

[Chinnyone1]

Yes mostly I have a partner

[hc4361]

Does the father(s) care for the children?

[Chinnyone1]

Of the older two yes no father on scene to younger one

[Islay]

Sorry I thought you were male!!

[Chinnyone1]

No female does it make a difference in the eyes of the law

[Chinnyone1]

So either way it's not looking good

[EDDIE51]

As I have said, my estimate is 2 years as long as you plead guilty, 3 years otherwise. You MAY be lucky and get it suspended but don't count on it!

[Chinnyone1]

Thanks for the sdvice

[nailit]

I may be reading between the lines here (maybe because ive been in similar positions in the past) but I get the impression that you KNOW that youre going down and are grasping at straws, and your real concern is how to get through a prison sentence?
If I'm wrong then I apologise, if I'm right then ask a different question and you might be surprised at the support you will get on here.
As EDDIE and Buen have pointed out, custody is a very real possibility and needs to be faced, as painful as that is.

[EDDIE51]

Nalit, we know that she has been found guilty at magistrates and has now been 'referred up' to Crown for sentence.
I still have to say I will be very surprised if this is less than a 2 year sentence and not suspended.
If you get 2 years you will serve 1 year with possibly the last 90 days spent at home 'on tag'. So at least 9 months inside !
As a violent offender there is no hope of getting sent to an 'open' prison , not sure there are any open jails for women anyway !

[nailit]

EDDIE,
//As a violent offender there is no hope of getting sent to an 'open' prison//

Not so sure of that. I got an 8 month sentence in 1997 for ABH and got a cat D (open prison. I legged it from there but that's another story :) )
And I know a few others who got a cat D with violent related offences. That was nearly 20 yrs ago tho and things may have changed since then.

[nailit]

Open womens prison?
Never thought about that EDDIE.

[EDDIE51]

Which nick were you in Nalit ? I worked in North Sea Camp education dept.

[nailit]

EDDIE, I was initially in Shrewsbury prison for a few weeks (at the time, the allocation nick for stoke on trent) and then got transferred to Sudbury in Derbyshire. Was only there for an afternoon as I absconded the same evening, (its a long story as to why...tell you another time :-0)