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Hi there, I’m currently released under investigation for ABH. This happened outside a night club. I was a door supervisor at the time.
I’m emailing you because I am nervous and scared, I have never been though this process before. I would just like you to put my mind at ease abit if you could please .
If the case goes to court and for example a charge is given, what is the worst likely outcome I would be looking at? This would be a first ever time ABH conviction , with no prior criminal convictions or cautions.
Thanks
I’m emailing you because I am nervous and scared, I have never been though this process before. I would just like you to put my mind at ease abit if you could please .
If the case goes to court and for example a charge is given, what is the worst likely outcome I would be looking at? This would be a first ever time ABH conviction , with no prior criminal convictions or cautions.
Thanks
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most likely it will all be caught on film and if you are innocent the case will be dropped especially if the "victim was being aggressive and under the influence of drink or drugs .
your training and licence should have given you some idea of your behaviour and whether you think yourself as guilty ?
your training and licence should have given you some idea of your behaviour and whether you think yourself as guilty ?
The magistrates have to consider both 'harm' and 'culpability'. If both factors are classed as 'high', it's a Category 1 offence. If only one of those two factors are 'high', it's Category 2. If neither factor is 'high', it's Category 3.
In the type of situations usually involving door supervisors (where, for example, excessive self-defence was used or the door supervisor had been subjected to a great deal of provocation), 'culpability' is likely to be 'low'. However headbutting a victim, or kicking him/her in the head, can result in 'culpability' being viewed as 'high', as can other factors such as acting in response to the victim's sexuality.
For 'harm' to be seem as 'high', the injury/ies caused would need to be relatively serious as far as ABH offences are concerned (i.e. close to 'GBH') or possibly to have resulted from a prolonged attack.
Someone convicted of a Category 1 offence would definitely be given a custodial sentence. (The 'sentencing range' is between 1 and 3 years' custody). However a sentence not exceeding 2 years can be suspended, which would almost certainly happen in the case of a first-time offender.
Someone convicted of a Category 3 offence CAN'T be sent to prison. (The 'sentencing range' runs from a small fine up to a 'high level' community order).
Category 2, unsurprisingly, fits in the middle, with a 'sentencing range' anywhere between a 'low level' community order and 51 weeks' custody. (Once again though, any custodial sentence would almost certainly be suspended for a first-time offender).
Without knowing how the magistrates might rate both 'harm' and 'culpability', it's impossible for anyone here to give any firm predictions. However, having studied court reports for over half a century, I can say without the slightest shadow of a doubt that, if convicted, you WON'T be going to prison. The most likely outcome would probably be some sort of community order or even just a fine.
See page 177, et seq, here to see exactly what the magistrates would have in front of them if you were convicted of ABH:
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In the type of situations usually involving door supervisors (where, for example, excessive self-defence was used or the door supervisor had been subjected to a great deal of provocation), 'culpability' is likely to be 'low'. However headbutting a victim, or kicking him/her in the head, can result in 'culpability' being viewed as 'high', as can other factors such as acting in response to the victim's sexuality.
For 'harm' to be seem as 'high', the injury/ies caused would need to be relatively serious as far as ABH offences are concerned (i.e. close to 'GBH') or possibly to have resulted from a prolonged attack.
Someone convicted of a Category 1 offence would definitely be given a custodial sentence. (The 'sentencing range' is between 1 and 3 years' custody). However a sentence not exceeding 2 years can be suspended, which would almost certainly happen in the case of a first-time offender.
Someone convicted of a Category 3 offence CAN'T be sent to prison. (The 'sentencing range' runs from a small fine up to a 'high level' community order).
Category 2, unsurprisingly, fits in the middle, with a 'sentencing range' anywhere between a 'low level' community order and 51 weeks' custody. (Once again though, any custodial sentence would almost certainly be suspended for a first-time offender).
Without knowing how the magistrates might rate both 'harm' and 'culpability', it's impossible for anyone here to give any firm predictions. However, having studied court reports for over half a century, I can say without the slightest shadow of a doubt that, if convicted, you WON'T be going to prison. The most likely outcome would probably be some sort of community order or even just a fine.
See page 177, et seq, here to see exactly what the magistrates would have in front of them if you were convicted of ABH:
https:/
It is all a bit early
you must have been arrested on suspicion of ABH
You may or may not have given a statement.
There is nothing you can do to vary the course of action
and so you have to wait and see.
Is there a door mens union? join if so
Once it all becomes clear, ( that is you are charged with anything) then you should hire a lawyer because..... you cant be a doorman if you are convicted, can you? - in other words it is vital you defend the action if any, which we cant do for you
you must have been arrested on suspicion of ABH
You may or may not have given a statement.
There is nothing you can do to vary the course of action
and so you have to wait and see.
Is there a door mens union? join if so
Once it all becomes clear, ( that is you are charged with anything) then you should hire a lawyer because..... you cant be a doorman if you are convicted, can you? - in other words it is vital you defend the action if any, which we cant do for you
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