Power Held By The Military Over 'Patients Of Interest' In Hospital

[joko]

Could military personnel just walk into a hospital and demand to take a patient away for tests in their lab?

Not for punishment, and not necessarily a criminal, but someone with special abilities, or has been infected with something (not contagious).

Could doctors or the head of the hospital refuse permission?
or could they 'apply' somewhere for the request to be refused?

In the America and/or the UK

Thanks :)

[Peter Pedant]

America - dont know - see the video about wubbles
she refused to take blood not for medical reasons by a policeman in A+E

A hospital is NOT a public space and you are there under permission. Usually Matron
No one can go in and detain for no reason. Various agencies can detain without warrant for a reason. Suspicion of murder is the usual reason.

we had a case where 6 policeman staked out the main corridor to arrest a father-batterer who asked the nurses to ring them when the suspect came in
Parents queued up to tell me the police were in the building and as far as they were concerned a hospital is NOT first stop to a nick or prison and Something Must be Done ( for the kids)

so.... I complained that the police had come into the hospital to execute a warrant without permission

AND - this was brushed over etc yada yada

of course they didnt need a warrant
and Matron late turned her famous cow-eyes onto me and said "yes they rang me up and said "they were coming in and I said OK but you see I DIDN'T know what they were....yappity yap," (*) you know the BS.. I honestly didnt know I was giving permission"
Miss Shepherd please read and note....

and the Union ( what?) said you would have been arrested if you had interfered... as they can enter any building

But you see - - they knew he wasnt there and has staked the building out when they knew he wasnt ( and you cant do it just in case).

so as you can see - it is complex
and your own arrest is possible - esp if the innocent turns out to be - --- not so innocent.

and did they get the batterer? can't remember

and just to elicit a ( what he said dat for den) there are circs when you are under a duty to report - explosives, stabbing and terrorism spring to a mind like mine - real crims go to vets apparently

(*) more cow eyes, imagine a mature woman trying to give a Diana look

[Peter Pedant]

Oh, the answer is no
In England, you cant get the police out of their stations ( or nicks) for any reason
ter daaaah !

[douglas9401]

Only if the patient is an X-Man gone rogue.

[Peter Pedant]

wubbles video here

[douglas9401]

Oh, and Caitlyn Jenner doesn't count.

[Peter Pedant]

for anyone on duty: ask the senior member on duty with you.
How can you tell
he is the one who says "I am not the senior member on duty"
haw haw haw

[theprof]

I'm glad the joko mentioned the non-contagious.

We don't want to discuss the antithesis we Peter?

[theprof]

...do we Peter.

[Canary42]

Why mention the Police, the OP states the Military. Of course the Military could disguise themselves as police as they did during the 1984/5 Miners' Strike.

[Peter Pedant]

compulsion for contagious diseases- I am not sure if there are now post-ebola regulations which allow them to bust in

There were Victorian regulations - and also a common law case where some one is coonvicted for wheeling a small pox case thro the streets of London (1850) - but their repeal was a prime aim for women's right movement

if you know of any.... you better tell me

[Peter Pedant]

because the game is - that the statements in the OP are taken as fact
("My aunt Agatha has three heads....." - well she cant have)

so changing the facts half way thro ( my aunt is in fact a man but the three heads bit is still true) is not part of the game.

In one of the nurse poisoning cases, 1970, Toronto Gen Hospital had police guard the ITU - but that was invited.

[Peter Pedant]

Oh! - at lease I think about this.....
Patient of interest is not a category I recognise
( basically if you are gonna detain someone, you cant just make your phrases up - "we are takin' your patient away Miss ( or Matron if you can find her) because he is ay 'patient of interest'"

[Peter Pedant]

doctors recognise that hospitals should NOT be first stop to a nick, as it interferes and doesnt contribute to public health

( people wont turn up - think about an illegal immigrant with open TB you want to turn up for treatment, and NOT think: first I take streptomycin then I get arrested )