Ignoring PR Agreement

[PinkFizz]

Does anybody know what the courts would do,if anything,when two parents sign a Parental Responsibility Agreement when they split up,yet one of the parents then totally ignores what this stipulates,and does the complete opposite - ie moves 3 times without telling the other parent,moves the childs doctor and won;t say where to etc etc,then finally refuses to let the father see the child at all,pretending the child doesnt want to see her dad??

Any advice most welcome and thankyou in advance.

xxx

[Eve]

Hey , i'm not sure as to to what degree they can be enforced but you can try ringing the Principal Registry Children Section Tel: [phone] or the Family Justice Council - (0)20 7947 7333/7974/7950 and they may be able to help you but often they cannot advise on individual cases so advice may be on the law and procedures in general and you may have to take further legal advice eg at the Citizen's Advice Bureau or from a solicitor for more specific advice.

Once made a PRA can only be ended by:

-an order of the court made on application of any person who has parental responsibility for the child

-by an order of the court made on the application of the child with leave of the court

-when the child reaches the age of 18

The court has certain powers to enforce court orders but the welfare of the child is always paramount in such considerations.

[Eve]

Hi,

Just read your previous log and it puts things in a lot more context and my heart goes out to the both of you.

Have you checked with the CLS to see if you can get any help there? http://www.clsdirect.org.uk/about/index.jsp?la ng=en

What are you seeing a solicitor for? Is your partner going for a contact or residence order or just getting general advice on problems as they occur?

It's an awful thing that even if orders are made they can be extremely difficult to enforce if one party won't co-operate.

I wish you all the luck in getting this sorted xxx

[Eve]

Just found this too, has some useful links....http://www.childrenslegalcentre.com/Templates/ Topic.asp?NodeID=89857

[PinkFizz]

Hi Jenna.Thanks for going to so much trouble.The solicitors horrific bills so far have been for sale of their old house,she has now moved in with new guy,for vanishing constantly and trying to find her,and now for trying to split the proceeds of the property - she has applied for 100% of the money! He hasn't mentioned to her at all that he would eventually want to go for custody.This is such a strain it has worn us both down beyond belief.She has now pretended that she is suffering from stress,and that is why she keeps not showing for court dates,says she is so ill,yet she goes to work still as a PA.!!

[Pippa68]

Hi Pink :o)

This saga is getting ridiculous isn't it? as you know Mr P and I have been going through allsorts of sh1te for the last 11 years so no way am I gonna tell you it will soon end (my step daughter is 13).

Our solicitor threatenend Mr Ps ex with court action which could lead to jail term if she refused to comply with contact order...nothing ever came out of it as our solicitor told as that 'at the end of the day the parent with care has the upper hand' this was more to do with the fact that Mr P wouldn't go through with it (I probably would have done!!).

Some very useful links there ~ I can't add any more, but wanted to tell you to please try and stay positive..as difficult as it is. I know what you and your b/f are going through, and it stinks. xx

[PinkFizz]

Hi Pippa honey - yes I remember what a terrible time you have had of a similar nature.To be honest,we are so worn down I don't know which way to turn.The law is an ass sometimes!! But bless you for your kind words.xx

[Pippa68]

I tell you what, Pink ~ I so wish I could wave a magic wand and make it all go away for you.

One of the things that has kept us going is 'what goes around comes around' Karma is a wonderful thing, and I believe she will get some eventually. It is already starting to happen for us ~ my stepdaughter is becoming quite defiant and standing up for herself and us. The more effort you put in, the more rewards you will reap...I am sure this will happen for you too. maybe not tomorrow, maybe not next year..but eventually. And you will both be glad you went through this, no matter how hard it has been.

I feel for you, Pink. Please take the best of care and make sure your little girl knows you are doing everything you can xx