burgular killed in robbery

[tezmand]

i dont know bout anyone else but i think he got what was coming to him he turns up at a house with a knife to rob the place im sure he wud have used the knife if he needed to otherwise why carry it , serve him right i have no sympathy for this scum of the earth that think they can just take what is not theirs while we people work for a living, rot in hell thats what i say !!! i hope the man whose house was being robbed gets off with it

[factorfiction]

I am not sure it has been established for certain yet that these were burglars. I notice the police and TV news reports are choosing their words carefully now and the word 'burglar' appears in inverted commas. But maybe that's just a normal precaution in these cases.

[johnk]

I think that's a normal precaution. If it was burglary or an attack then reasonable force is allowed to defen yourself. All the facts need to be known, not just sensationalism from the press, before you come to a judgement.

[LoftyLottie]

John is right. We none of us know the facts, only what the press chooses to report.

[sandyRoe]

How do you know that the man who was killed had a knife?

[rojash]

There is one fact of which we are fairly certain: there's only one U in burglar :-)

[LoftyLottie]

Spelling police, Rojash? Was that necessary?

[tezmand]

oh rojash unfortunatly we are not all as perfect as you !! regardless of what the paers have or have not said this bloke was there to rob he got what he deserved , he was stabbed with his own knife SO PAPER SAYS
there you go check my spelling will ya !!

[rojash]

"Spelling police, Rojash? Was that necessary? "
Well, I could have pointed out that at the moment we don't have all the facts, so shouldn't rush to judgement, but as that has already been said in other threads that have already covered this topic, there didn't seem to be anything else of relevance in the OP.

[barney15c]

"If" he was a burglar carrying a weapon then the man had every right to protect his family and property. I'm sick and tired of people siding with the wrongdoer, if he was carrying a weapon then he was quite prepared to use it with no regard to the consequences. No doubt those close to the person who died will say 'he didnt deserve to die' whatever he did. What i would say is if you are prepared to use violence as a means to commit a criminal act then you should be prepared to accept the consequences. Hopefully common sense will prevail and the homeowner will face no charges. He didn't asked to be robbed and threatened.

[tezmand]

hear hear barney

[andy-hughes]

The notion of an Englishman's home being his castle, and defedning hearth and home and all this is all very laudible but ...

before very long, you have to start justifying all manner of acts of violence - you are into the "I thought he was going to stab me so i stabbed him first ..." situations, and onwards and downwards from there.

For this reason - not individual cases which are apparently as black and white as this one - but the hundreds of 'not sure of the facts' tragedies that can follow, we must never simply accept that an offender 'got what he deserved'.

It is too simplistic, and it leads to a cheapening of human life which has seriously far reaching consequences - so let's not be too quick to pay this guy on the back and buy him a pint. After all, i doubt he feels like celebrating, having taken a life, no matter what the circumstances.