September 11

[butter1]

I was watching a very interesting documentary last night about Sept 11 and it really got me thinking.  Was it a conspiracy planned by Bush?  I was just wondering what anyone else's thought's were on the subject?

[Mattk]

i work with metals and was under the impression that steel is annealed or softened at approx 1200'c

[mycatis]

Brachiopod- another well explained answer. You are good at this!

[HAnn521]

Just one American's opinion...

Most of this thread is full of nonsense, no offense intended... Bottomline; if a commericial jet is flown into a building...any building will collapse and cause overwhelming destruction. Let's not forget our plain Physics now!

Also, what sort of documentaries are they showing over there in the UK anyway? I am not comfortable with the fact that a TV program could make the public suspect foul play in our government, or conspiracy from our President either, for that matter.

[aurelia]

HANN521 asked what kind of programmes get shown over ere in the UK.  Well, basicaly anything goes over here - it's got nothing to do with your government or your president - because there's plenty of progammes and documentaries here slating tony blair about the war and so on. Wha you've got to understand is that there is "freedom of speech" over here in a way that is different than in America - our tv is not run by "Netwoks" the way it is in the states - so basically anything goes - there are restrictions about programmes not to go out til after 9pm because of kids - it's called the watershed but on late nite chatshows here there have been famous american actors who couldn't believe what they could say on british tv - it was either Dustin Hoffman or Robert De Niro who thught he'd slipped up and was told by the host - Oh that's ok here and he then spent the next 5 minutes or so swearing every 30 seconds or so and laughing his head off saying I couldn't get away with this back home - this is fun - but sometimes it's not fun - the media here go after people and it's ruthless and sickening to watch which is why I don't buy tabloids  but as for 9/11 youwill get conspiracy theories about everything and anything - I mean we have to listen to Muhammad "I'm a crazy lunatic celebrity seeker" Al Fayed bring out the most ludacris theories abour princess di's death and the royal family hiring hit men - the man is seriously wacko - and I don't mean Jacko

[Trillipse]

dontcha just get tired of it all, sometimes...

[brachiopod]

HAnn521, which parts are nonsense? The parts that support ludicrous 'conspiracy theories' or those answers that seek to put them down,?
 As for the so-called 'documentaries' that are shown 'over here' ? These days, many are co-productions with US TV companies, and therefore won't let facts interfere with a good, populist (and therefore good for advertising revenue) story.
This commercial ethos reaches even the BBC, a publicly funded - but NOT Government sponsored TV channel - who have 'dumbed-down' to match the commercial stations in a quest for ratings and therefore justification of public funding.
Even so, on the whole, no television channel in the UK  (commercial or otherwise) bows down to the policies of either Government or its owner's political views and advertising revenues.
We don't have the situation where a major advertiser puts pressure on the TV network not to show a certain television programme under threat of withdrawing their whole campaign. (qv. Kellogs et al. and 'Desperate Housewives'). If they don't like it - they don't advertise in that slot. Simple.
And finally, as for being uncomfortable �with the fact that a TV program could make the public suspect foul play in our government, or conspiracy from our President"
Well, tell that to Woodward and Bernstein.
Do you think blind belief in the fact that your national leader can 'do no wrong', and suppressing any adverse publicity is a good situation to be in?
The 'conspiracy theories' raised in this thread implicating 'your president' are mainly culled from US websites and are complete b�ll�cks - and most replies tried to show that.
Most of us in the UK are sufficiently well informed to make up our own minds, and don't require intervention from State / Church / or Advertising Interests to tell us what we can or can't watch.

[neill]

Just WHO did kill Bambi anyway??? And furthermore,Humpty Dumpty,did he fall like they would have us believe,or,was he pushed??? Did poor old Humpty just know way too much???

[brachiopod]

neill, I can't believe you are so naive.

Humpty was pushed - it was a CIA plot aided and abetted by the British establishment, MI5, MI6, CDUK and MFI. I thought everyone knew that?  ;o)

[Octavius]

neill - sorry to dispel your conspiracy theory, but humpty dumpty was a large cannon on the walls of (I think) Colchester Castle.  During a battle, part of the wall was blown away, and humpty dumpty fell down and was damaged beyond repair - it's bloody amazing, but all the kings horses and all the kngs men couldn't put it together again, so what hope would GWB have had.

Now.  The twin towers, the collapses were caused by the failure of the buildings' steel structure as it was weakened by the heat of the fires.  It is quite possible that the thickness of the fire insulation to the steel was only as half as thick as it should have been to stand up to the fire, but that doesn't make bush a conspiracy subject does it?

Were the US Govmt responsible for the tsunami?? Surely someone out there can prove with factually correct scientific information that this was not a natural occurrence??