Educating Yorkshire,

[anneasquith]

as above, 9pm channel 4.

[leahbee]

Hope it's as good as last week. I thought the head teacher was fantastic.

[ferlew]

Blooming heck, some slappers there.

[leahbee]

What on earth has gone wrong with education?
I remember being scared of our teachers and would not dare answer back.
If we got into trouble at school we could be certain that we would be caned in front of the whole school

[Mamyalynne]

That is not available as a sanction any longer.

[douglas9401]

There should be some punishment devised for crimes against makeup.
Are there no mirrors in t'county?

[Mass_Hysteria]

The Head is fighting a losing battle, credit for trying to be a modern head teacher but kids nowadays seem to be able to pull all the strings knowing that they can't really be punished and it's almost a badge to be excluded. Obviously they live for "now" and don't think of the consequences.

[leahbee]

I know that Mamya but I don't honestly believe that it did is any harm.

[pusskin]

Blast I missed it, was good last last week.

[Mass_Hysteria]

it'll be on more4 tomorrow pusskins

[Mamyalynne]

Well Leah it may not have done any harm, but I distinctly remember the same pupils on an almost daily basis at my school lining up outside the Head's office waiting for their punishment - so did it do any good?

I got caned once, for trying on a trouser suit that I was buying from a pal in the Gym changing rooms, hardly something I was ever likely to repeat anyway.

[trt]

I wonder what the parents thought seeing their darling innocent kids effing and blinding, they must have given permission for them to be shown?

I suppose they didn't give a sh1t, a lot of them don't these days.

[Mamyalynne]

I agree they must have consented - I would have been squirming in my seat.

[zebo]

The "star", Georgia, claimed to be the only one of her 4 sisters to reach the end of Year 11, so it's unlikely that shame and squirming are concepts understood in her home, espeically hearing her telling her mother on the phone about the initial fight she provoked with Jac, the bleep would have been on overtime had it been used.
Schools have little in the way of sanctions these days, even a raised voice is deemed abusive by some.
The Year 11 Prom is used to try and control behaviour in the last year, but I recall a doting Mam lying on the road in front of the coach to try and stop it moving. The staff were prayiing that the clutch would slip

[B00]

Once again i didn't see anything shocking about this programme. Think im the only one who see's these kids as ordinary kids and not particular outrageous or anymore violent or thug life than they were when I was that age.

Yes that Georgia was a gobby mare towards her peers, but that's as shocked as I got about it, I saw her exactly as she was described by the head "A child wanting to be 25".

And as for them swearing, I did find trt's comment about it funny, especially his "I suppose they didn't give a sh1t" one- heh!

[ummmm]

I didn't see it all but I agree with you, B00.

When the head was talking to that girl about the fight he thanked her and said a year ago she would have lost the head (or something of the same meaning)

So clearly something is working.

[factor-fiction]

>"What on earth has gone wrong with education?"

The schools have to try to make the best of what comes there way. The major issue is their home life and their environment outside school.

The main girl featured (Georgia) came from a family where two of older her sisters had been asked to leave the school previously. When she was sent to the heads office for fighting and stamping on Jac's head she immediately got on the phone to her mum, effing and jeffing about how she was being treated. Her mum should not listen to such calls, Georgie also told us how her mum would 'kick off' with the school if there were any sanctions.

[factor-fiction]

line 1-their way!

[ummmm]

My kids wouldn't dare phone me if they got in trouble and they'd plead with the teachers not to phone me either. I'm not even a harsh parent!!

[sandyRoe]

These fly on the wall documentaries must act as a real disincentive to anyone considering a career as a teacher. No wonder so many teachers suffer burn out and opt for early retirement.

[anneasquith]

a very interesting programme. but, a) since when have teachers felt they need to be ''friends'' with pupils , b) when the headmaster was reprimanding pupils he was apologising to them for having to take some action.,,c) the pupils appeared to have no respect for the teaching staff.