Don't Cap My Benefits...

[ferlew]

How do you feel about this programme, BBC1, now.

[sherrardk]

New Judge, it's ever so easy to judge and and just group everyone together. I know because in guilty of the se . Walk in someone else's shoes for a while and she how that works out.

[anneasquith]

A) not everyone on benefits are lazy lowlife. ...B) keep in mind one day you may require some assistance.

[Cloverjo]

New Judge, there are very few families in the UK that have a lot of children while claiming benefits. A lot fewer than you'd think.
This type of program finds a couple of them and this makes viewers think all people on benefits are the same. They are definitely not.

[tamborine]

"Cleaning is demeaning" but benefits are not. Its about time this load was lessened off tax payers backs.

[LyndaB]

I have been fortunate in that we have never had to rely on benefits, even though my job only pays just over that national minimum wage. I believe that for too long, the benefits system we have in this country just encourages irresponsible behaviour. I think that the maximum any family should get in total should not be more than what a couple could get if they were both working for the NMW, regardless of how many children they have. After all, OH wouldn't get paid more if we had more children! would he?

[emmie]

can anyone explain why a bloke who has seven children only works part time, why keep on having children when they clearly couldn't afford them, where they were living in Brent, that he earned 150 a week, but was getting 800 quid in benefits, that his wife supposedly worked part time, so who looks after the babies, as i think they were all under 10.
some will be in school, but obviously not all. I didn't know what to make of them or some of the others, and where were the dads in many of these cases, the young woman who had been evicted had a very young baby, don't they ask the fathers for money towards the babies they produce.

[naomi24]

Lynda has hit the nail on the head.

//OH wouldn't get paid more if we had more children! would he? //

No, Lynda - he wouldn't.

[ummmm]

I'm sure they do ask for help from the father/s at some point but you can't get blood out of a stone.

[emmie]

then why did the young woman who did some voluntary work have another one, same for some of the others, perhaps blokes don't pay up, however why do the women keep on having them, its not being hard hearted i just don't understand the thinking, one woman had three babies, all different dads, the man with seven kids, the other man with nine, sorry i see this is a madness, why should the taxpayer keep on paying for their thoughtlessness.
the mad part is work 16 hours a week, according to the programme then the money starts rolling in, how does that even work

[emmie]

the premise of the programme as far as i could see what to knock back the nasty nasty coalition, look what that did to me sort of thing, however Labour have said they will do the same, cap the benefits. I agree with
NJ, and all his arguments.

[pixie373]

I find it difficult to believe that you'll ever be financially better off having another child. The benefits go up, but you have an extra person to pay for. I can't see how it's an easier option.

[ummmm]

I really haven't got a clue why some women continue to have children with unsuitable fathers. Maybe they are simply naive and believed that their relationships would work.

[ummmm]

That's my point Pixie...kids are very expensive.

[emmie]

it isn't, they may not do it for the extra benefits, who knows, but i honestly don't get if you aren't working, and no dads in attendance, that you keep having more children. Its bad for them, and bad for the mums,
some of those cases of being moved out of the capital got moved back after they complained.

[emmie]

one couple had nine children, even if he was working how can they afford to keep them all, you can't, so state benefits will come into play.
shouldn't people be rather miffed that they cannot afford to have more than one or perhaps two children, those who both work full time, and end up paying a small fortune in child care. The big problem in the capital, is the massive rents, and now that the benefit caps has come in many of the private landlords who rented their properties via the council now don't, so they rent them to people who can afford 500 quid or a lot more a week.

[factor-fiction]

I'm not sure whether these are well thought through calculated financial decisions ("if I have another child I'll get an extra £X a week but it'll cost me £y"). I think it's more likely that they either don't think it through- they just muddle along and another baby comes- or they think of the pros (more benefit, a bigger house, better excuse not to work) without thinking of the longer term costs and pressures.

I wonder what would happen if it was announced now that as from say June 2015 no extra benefits or entitlements to bigger housing would be paid for any children born after that date

[ludwig]

I didn't see the program, but I completely agree in principle with the idea of a benefits cap.

[emmie]

ff, same as always there would be an outcry, nasty IDS, or Cameron, look
what they have done, i can honestly say the programme was biased, and made me quite cross. If families managed before these large welfare benefits, then how come many don't now.

[ummmm]

The cost of living has gone up.