Jeremy Kyle - 'hypocrite'?

[andy-hughes]

The media is full of the story that Jeremy Kyle and his wife have split up after her indiscretions with another man.

Leaving aside opinions of Mr Kyle's TV show, I cannot for the live of me understand why some parts of the media are labelling him a hypocrite.

I am not a regular viewer of the show, but the extracts I have seen do not show Mr Kyle holding himself up as some sort of paragon of virtue to participants, so why would he be perceived as being dishonest for his presentation technique?

In view of the fact that it is Mrs Kyle who has transgressed, again I feel baffled by the hostility placed on Mr Kyle for aspects of his private life, which are, in my view, just that - private.

[-SharonA-]

He always spoke well of his 4 daughters.

[ummmm]

I disagree. An addiction turns people into liars. Sort out the addiction and they can return to the person they were. As did my father...

[ummmm]

3 daughters, 1 son.

[-SharonA-]

Right Ummmm.

[ummmm]

I wouldn't compare the two.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //If (say) your usually nice husband gets drunk a lot and beats you up. It's not the nice guy doing it is it, it's the bad guy. Actually it's just your husband who is doing it. Because that is what he is like.//

I think the point ummm is trying to make is that some external influences, including addictions and mental illness, can make us behave in a way we would never normally do - but give in to the potential bad behaviour that lives in all of us.

Those behaviours would never normally see the light in a single lifetime, but the effects of some mental processes can bring them out. Equally, as ummmm advises, the elimination of these processes means that the bad behaviour is under a level of control where we never even think of it.

But to assume that someone who behaves badly is simply a bad person is an over-simplification in my view. The majority of people who behave out of character do so because of forces they have not encountered before, and they are unable initially to deal with them.

[ummmm]

I know gambling addicts, heavy drinkers and people with anger management issues. The only ones I believe are not acting out of character is people with anger issues.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //Andy, Gambling addicts, heavy drinkers, people with anger management issues, etc. etc. are not behaving out of character. Quite the opposite.//

Then we must agree to disagree.

I feel that the individual human psyche, and we are all individual and unique - is far too complex to simply corral into a set of behaviours without taking outside influences - good and bad - into account.

[mushroom25]

have the circumstances of how he came to be involved with his (now ex) wife something to do with the allegation of hypocrisy, perhaps?

[netibiza]

I agree, it's not his fault poor man, well maybe it was. He did used to shout about being a happy family man, which I suppose he still is.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //Andy, we are in danger of having an interesting discussion on something irrelevant to the topic.
I'll pass on further comment about "character" on this thread. But I would be happy to go into it on a suitable thread. //

Indeed - interesting point - want to kick it off?

[netibiza]

In my view people with "anger issues" should have learned to control themselves, I did!

[Canary42]

He makes money exposing other people's personal problems but tries to gag the press from reporting his.

If that isn't hypocrisy, then what is ?

[Mamyalynne]

Has anyone got a link to the failed attempt at an injunction re this issue?

[ummmm]

He doesn't expose anything, he's just the host. It's the guests that expose their personal problems.

[pusskin]

Again...took them words right out of mouth ummmm. You beat me to it