I'm A Celeb, Get Me Out Of Here......

[trt]

They seem like a nice bunch of people, all friendly with each other up to now, hope we get some arguments.

The footballer looks very vulnerable, he's had a a little cry already.

If you dont like, or watch the show, you dont have to comment.

[murraymints]

ahhh..that's nice Andy..as the present Mr Hughes I hope you spoil her a bit

[RandyMarsh]

What did Wayne Bridge's girlfriend see in hard man John Terry then?

[MargoTester]

Again - money. Sure as heck couldn't have been anything else

[jennyjoan]

Here, can you bet in the bookies on who could be a winner

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //Elina. Most of the "house husbands" I've known have been wussies. Having your wife be the bread winner can't do a lot for your self esteem. Just my opinion (in case Andy reads this). //

Of course it's your opinion, and I am delighted to advise you that you too can think what you like!

It depends on your definition of 'wussies' and whatever the opposite to that might be - and whether you are looking at superficial indicators that may not reveal the true picture.

As I have said, no partner in a proper balanced relationship should feel inferior because they perform a different role.

Any 'breadwinner' needs a support system of some sort - that may be a partner who runs the home, which in itself is a responsibility as equal and as difficult as any full-time job.

Or, as in our case, it may be that one has elected not to follow a high-powered career in order to provide most of the practical support, although it is a very fluid situation with no demarcation lines whatsoever.

Whoever is around with the energy does the chores - it works fine.

[andy-hughes]

murraymints - //ahhh..that's nice Andy..as the present Mr Hughes I hope you spoil her a bit //

Indeed I do - she has breakfast in bed every day she is home, with the exception of Christmas Day, when she gets up before me to get the dinner going.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //^^^^^ Perhaps she didn't really fancy someone who was good at washing up/cleaning etc. //

Since at the time Mr Bridge was playing football full-time, maybe his domestic skills were yet to be realised?

Or maybe they are not as one-dimensional as your view of them would suggest.

[murraymints]

do you provide training for errant partners ??? lol

[RandyMarsh]

Andrew Hughes, are you sticking up for a footballer?

[Arksided]

Well its only just started but like most years I only know a few of them this year: Wayne Bridge, Carol Vorderman, Scarlett Moffatt and by a distance Ashley Banjo's brother... Jordan (street dance Diversity member)

Too early for allegiances to be formed but enjoying what little we've being shown.

[andy-hughes]

RandyMarsh - //Andrew Hughes, are you sticking up for a footballer? //

I am not sticking up for anyone - I am simply trying to advance the view that the stereotypical images being put forward as part of this thread are just that - stereotypical, and have no place in the modern world.

[Arksided]

By the way on 'Talkpsort' they've being taking the rise of Wayne Bridge ball-ing his eyes out... a bit mean but funny.

[andy-hughes]

divebuddy - //Here's some more of my opinion.

//one has elected not to follow a high-powered career in order to provide most of the practical support//

When a man says something like that (about himself) it means that the "higher career" wasn't an option for him. //

Speaking from personal experience - it was very much an option, but one not taken from choice.

Where do you get these fixed stereotypical ideas about compete strangers?

[murraymints]

no it doesn't divebuddy..it means that Andy supported his mrs going through college /uni and she is now able to earn good money and she is happy to have Andy at home doing what he does to enable her.and Andy , equally, is happy to take that role.....swings and roundabouts and a healthy relationship...stop imposing your ideas of normality on Andy...normal is what works for individual couples....

[andy-hughes]

murraymints - just to clarify, I'm not 'at home', I have a full time day job, and a highly successful freelance writing career in my spare time, the proceeds of which take us on a very nice holiday every year.

[murraymints]

I understand that Andy..badly worded on my part..you are happy to support your wife by undertaking domestic duties at home when there...would you like a servant to come along on your hols to assist..rub on cream..fetch the drinks....shake out sand etc etc....??

[MargoTester]

I thought this thread was about 'I'm a Celebrity' ! As usual it's gone way off track