Jacko Docu

[thesshhh]

These two guys and their families seem remarkably smiley and pleased with themselves despite their thoroughly unpleasant claims. Which parent in their right mind would let their child spend nights in the bed of an unrelated adult, superstar or not? What’s your verdict so far?

[spathiphyllum]

I hear you

[spathiphyllum]

well andy the innocent stance can be backed up by the lack of conviction at court.. But i hear you also.

[Peter Pedant]

// I find it impossible to believe you can't withdraw a statement.//

well howdy doody ! all sorts of impossible things happen in court all before breakfast! ( thx to Alice in W )

two inconsistent statements sit side by side and one can be cross examined on it - clearly a green light for the defence

domestic violence - the CPS - may STILL proceed

this comes up a lot in the Law thread - or as freeT might say - "oh Lor' fred "!

Perjury I think ( I am not a lawyer let alone as V enne says - AB's nay the world's greatest jurist (*)) never comes up.
You need a third witness to the act the perjury is about. trying to pervert tho e course of justice in these cases is a also .... rather perverse. ( ie non starter )

(*) altho I use this quote - said by some to be .... in my email monniker

[Peter Pedant]

// well andy the innocent stance can be backed up by the lack of conviction at court..//

hahaha very punny - the jury found his evidence lacked conviction so the defendant was acquitted

clearly should be BA on the grounds that 90% ABers will be left wondering - "whaaaa? wot dat den? wot he say den?"

[spathiphyllum]

[Peter Pedant]

someone will find a clip of oscar wilde doing a song and dance routine .....

[chelle7272]

Come legal info here about withdrawal. It's not easy as the reasons for doing so may be related to the crime, or the making of the statement a crime in itself.
https://www.mtgsolicitors.com/blog/2018/05/16/victim-and-witness-statements-in-criminal-proceedings.html

[Peter Pedant]

It is on channel 4 catch up

'he was the kindest cutest excitingest person'
er that was Michael Jackson
'and he also abused me ...'

I mean it is HIS performance and the pay off is .... pay off

watching with horrified fascination

[Peter Pedant]

too weird for me to watch all of it

"me being a harkey marm or whatever, I plonked him on the stage the next night and he looked just like Michael only he was white and Australian. I mean an he danced just like Michael it was uncanny and weird at the same time ..... "

they were both very personable young men who needed money only so they cd advance their careers of course

[spathiphyllum]

PP have you just watched the doc?

[spathiphyllum]

you know before MJ died he said people were trying to kill him they were trying to kill him. He knew he wasn't safe

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah, but you've just admitted that you believe reality is just a collective perception and that you don't conform to the perception of others but conform to your own reality and creative mind.

[spathiphyllum]

Sorry zacks i'm missing your point

[Peter Pedant]

//PP have you just watched the doc?//
I have just given up watching the doc

I cdnt bear the context of - he was the kissiest wissiest friendy you cd EVER have, so kind cute and funny
next to
and then he abused me and kept on doing it .....

[Peter Pedant]

presumably so that they both cd head off

q. - so you were being abused and you knew you were not alone so why didnt you tell someone?

A. because he was the kissiest most wonderful friend anyone.....

aaaa rgh weird ( but not as weird as Jacko)

[spathiphyllum]

Interesting PP i felt the exact same way and so did a lot of people online... Of course a lot of people also believed every word and now has a mahoosive hatred towards MJ. There will always be two sides

I just think.. surely there would be some solid evidence apart from my word vs yours surely MJ implied somewhere he did wrong or was a pedo? But no.. he says everyone is ignorant to what happened / his mental state / position etc.. It's ignorant its ignorant.

Even Jimmy Savile said in an interview "You see.. If anyone says "so how do you feel about the children?" I tell them that I hate the children, annoying little ***.. Because who admits to liking children?"

[spathiphyllum]

Are there any known, famous pedophiles with children?

[jackthehat]

///Are there any known, famous pedophiles with children? ///

In the Real World there are many......in Spathland, obviously not so much...

[spathiphyllum]

I would like to know one

[ladybirder]

R Harris has a daughter and he abused his daughter's friend for years if I remember correctly.