Do We Need To Complain

[teacake44]

I'm not unknowledgeable about world war 1, but after watching WW1 in colour it makes you wonder what we really have to complain about, ( including myself ) it brings one back down to earth, for what we take for granted. Well worth watching if you can stand it?

[Hopkirk]

I absolutely agree.

It's hard to comprehend what life must have been like for a frontline soldier, and these weren't highly trained career soldiers. They were Joe Public.

[Prudie]

I couldn't agree more, WW2 and Vietnam too - utterly horrific what people on all sides endured and what our young men were expected to do.

[anotheoldgit]

Yes men have it rough, that is why I despair when I hear these women libbers complain regarding what hardships women have to endure.

[Mamyalynne]

Peter Jackson's 'They Shall Not Grow Old' was excellent in every respect , by bringing colour to the images it made it all the more real.

Few of us today can compare our problems to those of the past, however if something pains you it's real.

[jno]

women libbers, there's a phrase I haven't heard since 1983. You really don't think women undergo hardship, aog? Try having a baby.

[ummmm]

jno...have you watched any of the youtube clips where they simulate labour on men. Wussies!!

[teacake44]

anotheoldgit I think you will find men and women all suffered just as bad in both wars, for a women to watch her young children starve to death and not being able to do nothing, or watch them being shot, I could go on but there's little point as most people are aware of what happened. But should I being having a bad day, I will just remind myself of what went on many years ago.

[dannyk13]

AOG, in WW2 most of the British secret agents dropped behind enemy lines were women and a few who were captured were tortured.

[Mamyalynne]

Now, don't stand in the way of him getting his digs in.

[dannyk13]

For AOG
http://www.violette-szabo-museum.co.uk/violette.html

[Sqad]

danny....you make a good point, however "women's libbers" are not the sort of women that would take kindly to be dropped behind enemy lines.........if only.

[anotheoldgit]

jno & ummmm

I feel sure that those men in Flanders Fields, D-Day, The Jungles of Burma, Korea etc, etc.
Would have gladly swapped their roles with any woman suffering the pain and later happiness, if it had been at all possible.

[Mamyalynne]

I have obviously read Teacake's OP incorrectly , yes of course remembering the horrors that people went through in times of War puts the more minor day to day worries to shame.

However, if you are wracked with pain or have a child with a terminal disease - your fears and worries aren't lessened by those remembrances.

[Old_Geezer]

Everyone has something to complain of and has a right to grumble, because nothing is perfect... yet. We tend to accept a level of convenience and inconvenience as a standard we just take for granted, whatever level it is, and so are irritated at that which could be better and isn't being made so, or is presently ok and someone or some group with power/influence is making worse. Things won't improve if you stop complaining, they'll just deteriorate; so rejoice in your ability to complain, and practice it regularly.

[anotheoldgit]

teacake44
/// for a women to watch her young children starve to death and not being able to do nothing, or watch them being shot, I could go on but there's little point as most people are aware of what happened. ///

Don't you think that these children also had Fathers who were away from home fighting in horrible conditions, not knowing what might be happening to their wives and children?

[ummmm]

The war hero, AOG, who won't give any details!!!

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne
/// Now, don't stand in the way of him getting his digs in. ///

Makes a change from the AB Covern's continuous dig at men.

[Mamyalynne]

No one was having a dig at anyone until you diverted the thread.

Bye.

[Sqad]

ummmm...true war heroes are reticent about revealing or sharing their exploits.

[anotheoldgit]

dannyk13
/// AOG, in WW2 most of the British secret agents dropped behind enemy lines were women and a few who were captured were tortured. ///

Danny you read too many books.

/// Although nearly twice as many male as female agents were killed, the men remained anonymous and without commemoration. Subsequently, biographies of agents have focused almost exclusively on the women, although a number of the men have written autobiographical accounts of their exploits. ///

https://www.history.ac.uk/reviews/review/729