To Kill A Burgular - Tony Martin

[Mr D Black]

A pretty damming programme from the BBC.

I was quite sympathetic with him, but it foreniscally seems he didnt fire a warning. It was cold blooded. I think a householder has a right to defend their property, but in this case it seems it was unreasonable force.

If the law was changed (not sure if they have this in the USA), where you are allowed to defend your property with a weapon, I think the number of burgularies would drop massively.

What are peoples' views?

[andy-hughes]

Yes, people are allowed to keep guns in their houses, but check out the number of innocent people, including children, who are killed every year with loaded guns kept as 'protection'.

The fault lies with the law, and police resources, both of which failed Tony Martin. It does not entitle him to shoot people, that's not negotiable.

[sheffwed39]

good on him .thieving scumbag had it comming.no one is safe in their own home nowadays.we don,t all have guns but you can easily kill with other weapons.what would you do if you confronted a burgler,make him a sandwich. i think not.

[electricblue]

It seems to me that the scum shouldn't have been on his property,they were there for one reason only and if they get shot,tough,shouldn't have been there!

[Philtaz]

Tony Martin had been burgled many times. Why should he have to lie in bed, fearful of the next person to take a liking to his property and his belongings?

Can you imagine the terror of hearing two people rummaging about in your house in the small hours, lying there all alone in a remote house? Why should burglars need a warning? They know they are committing a crime(for which they would receive a laughable sentence) yet continue their criminal activities unabated.

Barras was just starting out on what would have been a life of crime. Fearon is a convicted drug dealer and career burglar. Why should these vermin be allowed to roam the streets, free to continue their wanton acts of thieving, putting families in fear?

Martin did society a favour by doing what the courts won't.

[Hard@it]

you can't imagine what Tony Martin went through to reach this stage, bet it made the other thief think twice about about thieving again.

[bernardo]

I was quite sympathetic with him,

I have no sympathy for him at all. I think that it was a miscarriage of justice when his murder conviction was reduced on appeal to manslaughter.

but it foreniscally seems he didn't fire a warning.

That is not relevant.

It was cold blooded. I think a householder has a right to defend their property, but in this case it seems it was unreasonable force.

Precisely.

If the law was changed (not sure if they have this in the USA), where you are allowed to defend your property with a weapon,

In the UK you are already allowed to defend your property with a weapon - as long as you use reasonable force to do so.

I think the number of burgularies would drop massively.

I think the number of inncoent people being shot dead would go up massively.

[The_Mac_Lad]

I think Tony Martin should have been commended for shooting those two thieving scumbags.

The pc brigade worry too much about the rights of the thugs and villans of this country, than the victims whose lives are made a misery by them.

[spaced]

put it this way, if I caught some thieving pikey in my house, I would make sure that he left in a body bag. Couldnt care less about the consequences. They do not have a right be in you house thieving for things you work your nuts off to buy.

Let that be a warning to all you thieves.

[Sooper]

Its high time i think that people should be able to protect themselves and their properties by any means necessary. If Criminals still wish to pursue with robbing homes/mugging people etc then they will also have to put up with innocent victims protecting themselves and hopefully sending them to the Morgue. I would defend my home to the hilt everytime and would try my hardest to hurt anyone who violates that. Its high time that the Criminals got what they deserve instead of being protected by absurd laws and lenient sentences.

[ipek]

Straw Dogs - they wouldn't release it on video for years because it could incite people to copy.

And what is so wrong with defending what you have spent your life building? Why is someone who can't be bothered to make their own way in life, entitled to take what I have made? Oh, but then we are currently in a Pensions and NHS vacuum - not much difference is there?