Question Author
I'm sorry des-res.,
kempie must be right. Thanks for the link Kempie.
I ask this question of kempie who probably knows more than I'll ever know.
There is a scene that sticks in my memory that will help me resolve this.
I recall a man sitting in a chair, he is being threatened with a red hot poker. He grabs the poker with his left hand, and does not even blink. Sayes something like "you think you can to frighten me"
If you recognise the scene kempie or des-res let me know. Sorry for the delay in replying, been away.
regards
RAS