I think Jade is being Victimised by her own people.

[robotics]

I am going to get slammed and possibly bullied for writing this, but I am sick and tired of tip towing around and having to watch what I say in case it is classed as racism and offensive to other religions. I'm sorry to those of you who don't agree but I think the crackpots who stand for Politically Correctness in this country should just crawl back to where they came from.

I'm sick of us being dictated to by other "groups" who do not support or respect our traditions & beliefs. So why should we respect theirs. This country is going downhill fast and it won't be long before we as a nation will be dictated to.

We are told that it used to be that society viewed with deep distrust and suspicion of anyone who WASN'T a Christian. Now it's the opposite: Society wants to be seen to be tolerant to those who have faith in xyz/Other Faiths/alternative

[robotics]

CONTINUED.............

The behaviour that was shown by Jade has happened in every series of BB but nothing has been done or widely publicised as this, Jade is being bullied by her own country because she has the right TO FREE SPEECH. The media has blown this out of context. Jade wasn�t being racist, she properly said what yourself have said or thinking. Shilpa Shetty herself has made racist remarks about Jade but hey as a country, who do we support�� I was appalled that Jade was referred to as White Trash yet Shilpa came out the victim! What�s that all about?

I was victimised/bullied at Christmas, because we were not allowed to put up Christmas Decorations because it was offensive to other religions etc. who stood up to these people no-one.

If this is what the society is coming to where we are scared to say our minds, how long have we got as a Christian Country.

To the �other religions� that I have offended, you chose to come and live/visit this CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, a lot of �other religions� state they were born here and have the right for CHRISTIANS to respect them and for this country to make allowances for you to be here��..WHY? you must have valued this country as a CHRISTIAN COUNTRY to make this your home�����As Danielle said, if you don�t like it �������������..


Picking on someone because of their physical attributes, for being inarticulate and for being poorly educated is bullying too.

[justasking]

I agree with u in parts. I'm not racist (nobody chooses what colour skin they have or where they were born) but i do think that this country brushes racism under the carpet when it happens to white people yet pulls out the race card at every chance when it effects indians etc. I have no problem with pakistans, indians etc, they originally came here for a better life, with more freedom of choice and speech and yet they (or our leaders, newspapers, etc) are turning England into pakistan, india, iraq by taking our freedom of choice, freedom of speech away. My problem is not with people of other races, religions, skin colour, accent to my own...i am in favour of equality but i don't think we are being treated equally. In (my personal view) i feel that often asians etc are given preference just to prove that England is fair. But preference is not fair and is not equal.

[mountainboo]

What you've said has certainly given pause for thought. Someone posted a response yesturday and it was re the dispatches programme recently broadcast on channel 4. It clearly showed the racial hate that certain extremist Muslims have for any other religon here in England. The things they were saying were extremley worrying. Nothing has been said about these people who are utter Nazis. No press coverage, no arrests, nothing. Yet a few stupid comments made by a white girl have completley escalated and resulted in a witch hunt! I have lost all faith in this country. She is obviously deeply remorseful of her stupidity.

[littleoldme]

I am going to get slammed and possibly bullied for writing this

You will get disagreed with (right now, in fact). That does not constitute bullying. You want to see bullying, just watch Goody and her pals in action.

Jade is being bullied by her own country because she has the right TO FREE SPEECH

With rights come responsibilities and consequences.

she properly said what yourself have said or thinking

Again, you assume you know what the rest of us are thinking. You do not speak for me, I can assure you.

I was appalled that Jade was referred to as White Trash yet Shilpa came out the victim! What�s that all about?

So free speech only works one way then! How does one admittedly unpleasant comment equate to the prolonged, aggressive tirade of abuse Goody dished out to Shilpa?

I was victimised/bullied at Christmas, because we were not allowed to put up Christmas Decorations because it was offensive to other religions

Oh, I'm sure the many kids (and indeed adults) who have cried themselves to sleep night after night, been driven to breakdowns, and attempted or even committed suicide as a result of REAL bullying will be mere spits in the wind compared to your tragic tale of woe. And who wasn't allowed Christmas decorations? I was, and nobody complained. So were millions of others all over the country.

Picking on someone because of their physical attributes, for being inarticulate and for being poorly educated is bullying too.

True, but taking someone to task for being a foul-mouthed, ignorant, aggressive thug is fair enough in my book.

[sunnyday2d]

robotics,
Jade goody may have the right to free speech,
but she does not have the right to be an
OFFENSIVE FOUL MOUTHED BULLY.
if someone spoke to you in that manner i suspect
you would have a different point of view.

[joko]

jade has admitted it today.

[smiffy65]

did any of you out there see the beginning of this so called argument, well I did and it was Shilpa that started this stupid argument by dictating to jade what she can and cannot do with the so called oxo cubes, if she had not said anything in the first place it would never have happened, Yes I believe Jade went over the top and reacted very badly but it was all in temper,Hav'nt you ever said anything really hurtful in temper?,I would bet the majority of you out there could not answer no!!!!!!!!!!!!

[notfrom-fiji]

do be careful about what you right in support of Jade as SAKO 243 becomes very upset and tends to personally offend your family!!

[yassa]

Sticks and stones,,, i suggest a lot of people have a reality check in this country and wake and smell the coffee. Jade is a knob end and so is Shilpa for going on a 5th rate reality tv show, if the stupid woman cries that easily, she should never have put herself in that possition. And where in heavens name did they get all those CBB things to burn in India, someone causing trouble on purpose if you ask me.

[luckyeight]

Found the original post by robotics very offensive. The issue around Jade & Jack and their comments about Shilpa is one thing, but i hardly think you should use that as a rant about 'our country' and if you don't like it 'go home' etc. To echo another poster, people (ie Jade Goody) do have free speech but they must also take the consequences - in this case, tens of thousands of people complaining about the program because of what they have seen.
You use this CBB issue to have a rant about 'respecting the Christian faith' etc but it's not about that. Shilpa has shown respect for other customs and beliefs and is actively multi cultural, whereas those who have made derogatory comments about her have stooped low and shown their ignorance about other cultures and lifestyles. Objecting to Jade etc's treatment of Shilpa does not equate to Britain being threatened and having to compromise her traditions and customs.

[ELVIS68]

Well said yassa
The whole thing has been blown out of proportion,bullying ...yes,racism...no

[clemantine]

Am I the only one that can see this for what it is a bunch of nutty z Lister's bitching . it's like the emperor's new clothes someone says it's racism so it has to be are we all that stupid that we can't tell the difference between a bunch of nasty arrogant self absorbed women Jade Danielle Jo and Shilpa included .I think jade was over the top but isn,t whats happening now to her just as bad you can't have it both ways you can't scream bully and give it back 10 fold I don't like racists and Idon't like bullies and Idon't like the society where a young women who has apologised so much for the awful things she has said has been sent death threats and is being hounded until she breaks well then we can all feel justified .Let s not forget she has two little boys. Now there are some of you that says well she deserves everything she gets that may be so but I will not be one of those she did not murder anyone she lost her temper and said a few nasty things shilpa said it wasn,t racist so unless shes a liar then it's true so whats all the fuss about lets all relax and start acting like a civilized society .

[joko]

"so called" oxo cubes...?

they were oxo cubes!

they had very little food and those idiots used 4 whole cubes - which was all they had - to flavour one bowl of pasta - i'd have been annoyed too!

and she hardly went in all guns blazing, did she?
..she asked the question and then told them 4 cubes for one meal is not necessary.


jade and the coven may not be consciously racist, but they used race as a way to bully her - it was just another way for them to pick on her.

its different from attacking someone simply for being a different colour but its out of order all the same.

[ELVIS68]

They used 3 actually

[lady_p_gold]

What we need to ask is, if Shilpa had been from Essex or Wapping and Jade had behaved in her own inimitable fashion and called her Shilpa Isle of Dogs or something, if everything had been just the same but Shilpa had not been of a different race, would we and the media have been outraged in a similar fashion. Was Jade acting in this way purely because Shilpa was of a difference race. You know ... I actually don't think so, I think it is just Jade being Jade and being quite canny and knowing that arguments bring ratings. She is playing her part in her reality career only it has backfired. Perhaps those who are singling out this as a racist incident are being racist themselves by singling out the whole thing as different when it might just be the normal bad mouthing that she has had with a loads of different people over her 'career'. Just a thought.

[robotics]

My post I knew was going to be offensive to certain people, I did not write it to cause offence and that's my whole point, People in this country are scared of what and when to speak, because they are afraid to speak their minds, No one has battered a eye or slated Shilpa/Jamine for there racist and abusive comment towards white people so why is Jade being slated for doing exactly what they are doing, ok, they are doing it in a more dignified manner�� what's the saying "A Pot Shouldn't Call a Kettle Black!"

It�s easy to see faults in others. But what do we miss in ourselves?" Are we hypocritical? Do we do things we criticise other people for doing things we do? How do we stop that?

sunnyday2d you mentioned that Jade does not have the right to be an OFFENSIVE FOUL MOUTHED BULLY. Jade has the right to be whoever she wants to be.

Again people, question our society, racism cannot be one sided, lack of education rests with the government, and swearing... acceptable or not under our freedom of speech laws?

Luckyeight you have mentioned that tens of thousands of people have complained, I wonder what percentage of the complaints was by Multi cultural Faiths!

I think people should start to understand that racism can occur on both sides. It's not just the majority attacking the minority. India also seemed in uproar, but there are huge racial divisions in that country. Maybe they should take a look at their own social structure as opposed to attacking ours.

[drchasuble]

So robotics in your society, Jade has the right to "be whoever she wants to be". I assume you think that she can act in this abusive manner as a basic human right?

Political correctness is not part of this debate and never has been. This is where you Daily Mail readers always go wrong, this is to do with human decency and mutual respect. Something that the likes of Jackiey and Jade simply do not understand.

[robotics]

PMSL Daily Mail Reader, now thats offensive (it's got no pictures)

Have you been watching Shipwrecked 2007, just wondering your opinions on this. Is it right these comments made have gone un-commented. I would say Political Correctness (madness) is a big part of this debate

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Media/Question3 53446.html

[robotics]

In MY society, Jade has the right to "be whoever she wants to be". Who are we to Judge anyone, who are we to victimised this Girl, I would say the media and the public are abusing Jade�s Human Basic Rights.

It's her choice if she wants to act in this abusive manner. who am I to condemn her behaviour, This is NOT something that is happening in "my society" it is happening in every society and to every �class� around the world, yes I do agree human decency and mutual respect is important (I was more upset by the way she spoke to Ken), but in "my society respect and decency is earned not expected, works both ways.

[Backdrifter]

We all have the right to comment on someone's behaviour. I don't think Goody was being racist as such, just ignorant, narrow-minded and bad at expressing herself. Yes, she like the rest of us has the right to free speech, but when you exercise that right you accept that everyone else equally has the right to exercise theirs by criticising your words and actions.

Re political correctness, a balance is needed. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be careful about what you say, but there's also a growing culture of fabricated outrage in which people decide they're going to be offended by something when they're not really, just to make a noise. The two issues are now overlapping and too many people act righteously offended at some perceived but minor or non-existent slight. This in turn overlaps with the compensation culture and increasing litigiousness.

I think what we now refer to as "PC" started with good intentions but can be taken to extremes, as with the councils who try to rename or ban xmas lights but without consulting with the minorities they're supposedly protecting - muslims, hindus etc who are not offended by xmas, celebrate it themeslves and are baffled by the councils' actions. Yes, that's silly but the media vastly overblows this kind of thing, to the extent where many believe it's happening everywhere all the time (it isn't) and that Britain is somehow turning into Pakistan (it isn't) or that we're about to be overrun by snarling muslim extremists (we're not).

This notion that we're supposedly scared to speak our minds is misleading and overstated. If you have something to say and an absolute conviction of it, just say it, and deal with whatever the response is. If you're accused of being un-PC, retort - argue as to why you're not, and why you believe what you do. That's what free speech and open discourse is all about. It's only if you know deep down that your views are dodgy that you will feel wary of