jim vs brian

[rugeleyboy]

yeah ok jim went way to far with his views (which he is entitled to have,but they are best kept at home) and his bullying but brian was lapping it up for all its worth and he must of taken homosexuality back 10yrs in doing so!!! i have gay friends and they do NOT act like brian did, i hope he gets kicked out as soon as possible!!!

[4gottenabout]

As I said on another post I agree that Brian does like to play the homophobic card, but Jim was out of order with his shirtlifter comment. No comments need to be made, no attention even needs to be bought to the fact he is gay

[rugeleyboy]

it made me cringe with embarrasment when jim said that.

i couldnt believe he thought that would be ok to say to ANYBODY!! even without having cameras focused on you!

[tiny e.a]

I don't think Brian was lapping it up, I think he genuinely felt attacked and was trying to defend himself. I don't agree at all that he has taken homosexuality back ten years, I think for how upset he was about it he tried to argue seriously and make his points heard, he wouldn't let the girls hug him because he wanted to make a stand and didn't want to just run away crying with his friends following behind him. Your gay friends may not act like Brian but that doesn't mean he's wrong. I have many straight friends and we all act very differently too, there is no set behaviour that people of certain sexualities should adhere to.

I don't like Jim Davidson, I think he's a horrible bully and I find it laughable when he tries to slip in the self pitying 'I'm a victim' lines. however, I do feel that the 'good as you' lines mat have been a half hearted attempt by him to pacify the situation (that said, one attempt does not cancel out all previous comments) but it was misinterpreted because he had already got everyone so riled. I think he may have said more abusive stuff before what we saw because when Paul was telling Barry about it he said 'Jim came out and started bullying all of them but particularly Brian' and he said to Jim 'I don't understand what you were playing at, why you came out and said all that to begin with'

[tiny e.a]

Also, I wonder if Marco will be hostile toward Brian now because he got his mate kicked off the show. (I realise Jim got himself kicked off but that could be Marco's mentality). What do you reckon?

[4getmenot]

Jim definetaly cant have an adult conversation he tries to then when it backfires he says stupid childish playground stuff, like whatever or thats it spit your dummy out. He said he was the victim as if they were all picking on him. A bit like on here someone says somethign rude and out of order others have a go and then its us that are the bullies

[ELVIS68]

Could be ITV editing it to make it all onesided...even so, Jim Davidsons comments were very dated..shirtlifter?...I thought sausagejockey would`ve been funnier

[4getmenot]

maybe he did call him that and they edited it. :-)

[rugeleyboy]

yeah it will be interesting to see who actually pulled the plug with jim. i bet the production team have told marco, but saying that, marco plays by his own rules me thinks??

sausage jockey!! .... thats naughty!! lol

[4getmenot]

I think Jim asked to leave but they've had to say they asked him to

[tiggerblue10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Davidson_%28c omedian%29

I posted this in my thread of 10/9 but here it is again. The man has prejudice issues in general.

[Mattk]

He says hes not homophobic but then Bernard Manning used to say he wasn't racist.

[eyeshade]

Ooh, just got here folks! Well, what a carry on!

My take on this is that Jim is a devious character & pushed it way too far as always but what good telly? Brian is theatrical that is his nature, however he is not a bully though nor a name caller. In fact he can be quite funny to watch (funnier than JD at times, possibly a bit of jealousy there?) I grew up in the 70's with the likes of Jim and crew and sometimes it is difficult to accept change on certain things however Jim is crafty and scheming, you can tell by the comments he comes out with after he has said them but he just can't stop himself saying it.

Look at his bullying tactics with his previous wives, often lashing out at them. I also think Marco was wrong at the outset in having his favourites, i.e. Jim and Barry, that was unfair to eveyone else.

[Everhelpful]

Shirtlifter? Thought the expression was "Pillowbiter"?
If you'll pardon the pun I think Brian is a pain in the backside!!.