Furious.

[Shadow Man]

Within fourty seconds of seeing Pomp and Circumstance and Land of Hope and Glory on the Proms I furiously have complained to the BBC.

As a British person I am extra proud to be English. This evening is one of the last remaining bastions of Britishness left in our culture, and I, for one, adore the regality of the whole show. I therefore embrace the nations flags of Northern Ireland, Scotland and even the Welsh Dragon. I also just about accept the Republic flag of Ireland, to a small degree.

During Land of Hope and Glory I further embraced the tricolor of France. Yes, they were capitualting cowards with little more than garlic for arms, but Jerry did harm them, so hats off. What I can not except, and refuse to embrace is the bloody German flag waving at OUR proms!!!!!!!!

Land of Hope and Glory was made especially famous in both WW1 and WW2 as a statement against Jerry and their facist regime. How dare they!!! and how dare the bloody politically correct BBC allow the German flag to be waved!!!

My Great-Grandfather died at the Somme along with 20 odd thousand other Brits. Probably a lot of AB family members. His son, my Grandfather fought in Africa during WW2 against great odds to defeat Hitler!!!!!

I am furious, and this has ruined a rather nice evening and poor old Elgar must be stirring in his grave!!

Please air your complaints to the BBC if you feel the same.

Spitfires to the lot of them. Bloody krauts.

[Pirate1]

What were you doing on the budgie?

[Kleiber]

Shadowman - I didn't say you were being racist against the Welsh (I'm Scottish, anyway). But you were being in some of the other remarks you made. I don't want to enter into an argument, as I can see your point - being a patriotic Brit. However, I think tarring a whole nation with the same brush ("Bloody Krauts") is a bit much. Even though my dad had good cause to dislike the Germans, as I said before, he forgave them and I have many German friends. I also have many English friends......and Scots, and Welsh and Irish, Indian, African etc, etc, etc!!!

[Shadow Man]

Christ, I say I have embraced the Welsh (which is a first for me) and I get slated.

[captains log]

polishing its bill pirate

[meglet]

And please do explain the welsh comment too, you're so bloody patriotice but it seems it doesn't extend to the home nations!

[whiffey]

Thanks for the Basil Fawlty clip, staramanoskovskie, much appreciated. I hope you are soon better.

[Shadow Man]

Meglet, have you actually read my inition question come statement.

.........I therefore embrace the nations flags of Northern Ireland, Scotland and even the Welsh Dragon. I also just about accept the Republic flag of Ireland, to a small degree.............

What part are you failing to understand?

[captains log]

here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?vmnRIejYv9mo

nuts

[meglet]

As I said, I took mild offence at the "even" the welsh dragon part. Why "even"!?

[Ethel]

And the conductor of the Last Night of the Proms is a Czech.

And shock, horror! They played music by R Strauss at this concert, an offiicial of the Nazi Third Reich.

Have a look at the list of composers for the season's Proms - not many British amongst them:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/proms/2007/aboutmusic/

[ne2]

Shadow Man hates the welsh Meglet. Do not let him fool you!

[ne2]

And I hate the english.

[meglet]

ne2, why do you think that is? Is it the close harmony singing? Or when you ask for directions in Wales you'll be washing phlegm out of your hair for a week? (Old Blackadder joke!)

[whiffey]

No Islamic music though. I hope they put that right next year.

[shaneystar2]

Blimey ....and they threw in a bit of Wagner too !
Adolfs favourite ! ...lol

[abanker]

I understand your point Wardy.
I think your words are being twisted just to take a stab at you. I have complained to the BBC too.

[weeal]

I always thought the proms was English (as opposed to British), being a scot Rule Britannia doesnt quite cut the mustard

[Kleiber]

Shadowman - just another wee thought, before I totally give up on this thread...there were many Irish (from the what is now Republic of Ireland), who also fought for Britain in many wars (Napoleonic, WW1, WW2 &C). Notice, I say "Britain", not "England". Britain is made up of other nations, too. Unfortunately, along with yourself, some people from other countries think of Britain as "England". How wrong they are....

[abanker]

PSML @ Whiffey