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Ok thanks for your replies, yes it had gone to red and i was half way through it so my own fault regardless, i have no excuses and im willing to take the £60 and 3 points punishment, im hoping that it had no film in it due to Council cuts etc but i definately dont think it was a dummy as it flashed twice and nearly brought on a fit it was that bright and quick! ha every morning from now is vital really and im a bag of nerves when i get in frm work wondering whats dropped through the letter box! ha its the 3 points thats the real killer i suppose but finger's crossed that my licence stay's clean!! ;)