Avoid A Speeding Fine

[BEGGS]

after giving false information my friend was contacted by the police to give positive information on the false details given about a driver in grenada driving her car. What is she likely to face as she cannot give any more information for she was the driver and lied in the beginning.

[factor-fiction]

I find that very hard to believe, princemac, but would love to see an official link.

[boxtops]

...and if you are honestly wanting to represent someone who is driving without the required insurances etc then you are doing the rest of us no favours. If your "client" crashed into my car, with no insurance because you told him he could get away without having any, then I know where I'd be redirecting my claim.

[princemac]

Woolgang,no I don't take pills,wouldnt be a good idea when you trade dollars/sterling,but thanks for your concern.Peace.

[boxtops]

I thought you were in property management, princemac, that's what you said last night?

[New Judge]

All jolly fine, I'm sure.

And what, precisely, has any of this to do with BEGGS's question?

Her friend, as the registered keeper of a vehicle, was asked to provide details of the driver of that vehicle at the time of an alleged offence. To fail to do so is an offence under S172 of the Road Traffic Act (under which I know you believe prosecutions are invalid unless those accuse consent to it, but no matter). None of this has anything to do with ownership of the vehicle, none of it has anything to do with SORNs or V5s. The definition of "driving" is well established in law and does not seem to be in dispute here anyway. Neither Bouviers Law Dictionary nor Blacks Dictionary (which seems to refer to cases in the USA) are therefore relevant.

BEGGS’s question is straightforward but your answers are bordering on drivel. I would not normally bother to level such accusations but over the past day or two you have contributed to two or three questions in “Law” and have provided misleading, confusing and on occasions utterly false information and I don't think it is helping much.

[princemac]

No Boxtops, you misunderstand me,he is not my client and this court case has been and gone,but if this is true, and I have already found another person testing this theory, its still very spooky eletric,simlar to the Rodger Hayes case.

[woofgang]

would some nice mod please put princemac back in his playpen?

[boxtops]

I agree with NJ,. the information princemac has provided on this thread bears no relevance to the OP.

[princemac]

New Judge,a few days ago you stated it was a request for details,now you say its an offence under S172, so it wasn't a request.

[Barmaid]

It is a request for details under s172 and failure to provide those details is an offence. fgs.

[boxtops]

Princemac's tactic seems to be to try to get people to trip themselves up.

[bednobs]

whereas i think his tactic should be to put pencils up his nose, and say wibble

[EDDIE51]

Your friend is 'perverting the course of Justice'
Remember this, it was only a few weeks ago ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22250665.

[EDDIE51]

Sorry try again
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/11/chris-huhne-vicky-pryce

[Buenchico]

For the information of contributors to this thread:
I have just suspended Princemac. The reason I submitted to the Ed reads as follows:
"Since joining AB, Princemac has posted 44 answers in 'Law'. Not one of them has been accurate. The majority of them have have been misleading and/or irrelevant and/or meaningless drivel. I suggest that the Ed should consider whether Princemac's membership of this site should continue."

For Beggs:
I can only suggest that (in order to avoid a possible prison sentence for 'attempting to pervert the course of justice') your friend should admit that she was the driver but also state that she only gave false details 'by accident' as she 'got the dates mixed up'.

Chris

[boxtops]

Chris, good move, well done, and a good justification for doing it.

[EDDIE51]

Thanks Chris at last some sense. I have reported princemac 3 times now for giving not only wrong but dangerously wrong advice. I just hope no one took notice of him !

[Sharingan]

Chris, that's excellent. I suggested the other night gently and politely that he had no idea what he's talking about and he's still at it and arguing with Barristers.

[factor-fiction]

Good move Chris. Even I was losing patience.

[woofgang]

Thanks Chris, i too reported him.