Fighting A Speeding Fine ...

[dieseldick]

i am sure 99% i was not speeding, i got a notice to prosecute, how can i fight this ?

advice please thanks

[dieseldick]

i allways take great care about speed limits in liverpool , cams everywhere, indeed i went down the same road tonight and passed 3 cams on a stretch of rod about 2 miles long, but then heres the kicker....i seen another blue / grey coloured cam in on same road which ive never seen before , sneaky *******s !!

[factor-fiction]

> how can cops prove i lived there ?

I don't think that's relevant. If it can be shown that the address registered with DVLA at the time of the alleged offence is your Belfast address then the Speeding Fine Notice was clearly sent to the wrong address

[dieseldick]

factor-fiction
my address registered with dva is belfast

[factor-fiction]

I know- I read your earlier posts. If that can be shown then you are okay.
Something about this doesn't quite add up though.

[buildersmate]

So why would the NIP be sent to an address in Liverpool if you maintain the DVLA have never had the RK (you) at an address in Liverpool.
Electoral roll is irrelevant.
Somehow DVLA latched onto an address you claim you lived at in Liverpool for only four days, and never had the vehicle registered there anyway.
That's going to be an interesting g scenario to prove.

[SirOracle]

So tonight you are back in Liverpool........staying at the Liverpool address again ??

[dieseldick]

i am now in liverpool , i work in liverpool, my adress is in belfast allwatys has been, my address in belfast is registered with dva and electoral reg. so how to hell did cops get an address where i only used for 4 days ?

was speaking to guys in work yesterday, one told me to fight it and ask for calibration and photos etc, another guy from wales has had 3 notices to prosecute and has binned them and not heard a word back !! nice one if u can get away with it.

[venator]

If they have camera evidence, you're taking on a massive gamble.

When you're in a hole, stop digging.

Cough up, smile and get on with your life?

[TWR]

Has it occurred to you that your car could be Cloned?

[ToraToraTora]

I don't see how the NIP can arrive at the address of your digs in Liverpool if the car is registered in Belfast. The authorities don't look up the address at DVLA and then say, yeah but we know he's at Jim's B&B round the corner lets send it there! This whole scenario over both posts does not add up, i'd like to see all the paper work! I smell a rat!

[Cobwebs06]

I should pay up dieseldick, it could cost you a lot more if you go to court and lose.

[Bazile]

What address is on the registration document ?

If it's the liverpool address - then why didn't you correct it with the DVLA when they sent it to you ?

If it's the Belfast adress , then i can't see why it was despatched to the liverpool address . As has been stated DVLA haven't got a bloke sitting there looking up adresses to Despatch NIP'S - the adress would have automatically lifted by the computer from what they have, registered .

If some error has been made somehow by the DVLA computer - then what would be the chances of it been sent to an address , which just happens to be somewhere where you have stayed in the past / is currently staying ?

[SirOracle]

Your Liverpool address hasn't somehow been used by you for insurance purposes,as we all know that the premium to insure a car is at least double if you live in Belfast compared to Liverpool.?

I hope this is not the case here, as doing this would invalidate your insurance.

Maybe the police got your address from your Insurer rather than the DVLA.

If you persist in contesting this speeding charge (and what I have stated above is factual?!) then these matters may well rear their head in court.
This could lead to very serious consequences for you.

[ToraToraTora]

I think you've cracked it SirO!

[SirOracle]

Thank you TTT.

I hope that the diesel will realise that IF my thoughts are correct his best course is to pay the fine and to accept the points pronto.

[factor-fiction]

Hi- I was just wondering whether you had heard any more about this?

[EDDIE51]

I think 40 in a 30 limit is within the range for a speed awareness course rather than points and a fine
http://www.theaa.com/aadrivetech/driver-awareness/speed-awareness-course.html
If you plead guilty and ask for the course you may very well get away without a fine or points. I would also add that the chance of disproving the speeding is virtually zero! I know a police traffic officer and he says that he has never known anyone prove that the speed camera is wrong.

[SirOracle]

By the way Diesel is the registration number on your vehicle a N.I.one?

The reason that I am asking is that the police are well aware of the higher premiums required in Belfast,and the prevalence of drivers falsifying their address with their Insurance Company,resulting in the insurance being invalidated.

This makes matters much more serious and enables a charge of driving without insurance to be proceeded with. Very high fine and large number of points,to say nothing of possible disqualification.

I would cut my losses if I were you.

[Baldric]

///i have not changed address ;-) my address which i am registed under in belfast has allways been on electoral role !!!! ///

///tora ...hold on here, my address with dva is in belfast , allwaysa has been , never changed, so please read carefull///

What about

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Technology/Question1345894.html

[SirOracle]

Well spotted Baldrick.

There seems to be some economy with the facts here.......coupled with a silence of the O P .