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Speed Awarenesss Course
Have you attended one and do you think its made any difference to the way you drive?
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That is an unreasonable question. Of course a few miles per hour over an arbitrary limit is a minor infringement. And despite my sorrow at such an accident whoever was the cause of the problem, driver or injured, should be held responsible.
Trying to achieve emotional blackmail and consequential guilt feelings in order to try to push the idea that up is really down, or left is actually right, is no basis for discussion. Maybe we should all be forced to stick to 2 mph then and have someone walk in front waving a red flag. After all safety first: and if it stops just one injury...
This is one of the problems with today's society. It sees no need for balance and reasonableness. A rule is made and one is then bullied to comply exactly; everything either black or white, no graduation or compassion, regardless as to how proportionate that act is. It is no way to create a decent society for folk to live in. It is more like an Orwellian nightmare where those who make and enforce rules are no longer respected as they used to be by large parts of those they control.
Of course it is the decent folk who feel the pressure. they have much to lose. The bad guys accept it, know how to stay out of the limelight as they do what they intend to anyway. Decent citizens are easier to catch and discipline.
Trying to achieve emotional blackmail and consequential guilt feelings in order to try to push the idea that up is really down, or left is actually right, is no basis for discussion. Maybe we should all be forced to stick to 2 mph then and have someone walk in front waving a red flag. After all safety first: and if it stops just one injury...
This is one of the problems with today's society. It sees no need for balance and reasonableness. A rule is made and one is then bullied to comply exactly; everything either black or white, no graduation or compassion, regardless as to how proportionate that act is. It is no way to create a decent society for folk to live in. It is more like an Orwellian nightmare where those who make and enforce rules are no longer respected as they used to be by large parts of those they control.
Of course it is the decent folk who feel the pressure. they have much to lose. The bad guys accept it, know how to stay out of the limelight as they do what they intend to anyway. Decent citizens are easier to catch and discipline.
As Old Geezer said, these are minor infringements, There was a young man on the course I attended who had been booked for doing 31 mph in a 30 zone. Common sense has been replaced by health & safety.Many years ago I was going too fast on my motorcycle, it wasn't outrageously quick and a policeman on a motorcycle drew level and without either of us stopping said I know it's fun but slow down a bit. that made a bigger impression on me then being pulled over and fined. I never exceeded the limit on a m/cycle again.
Have never been caught personally, but not sure it made much difference to my friend who went on one, then once she had passed the statutory 'can't repeat it within 3 years' period promptly got caught again and had to do another one.
Seems that around here most people seem to get caught out by the 'average speed' cameras.
Seems that around here most people seem to get caught out by the 'average speed' cameras.
Yes, and it total agreement with grasscarp, although in 10 years less driving – although I did learn one thing from the course.
I can advise that the courses are just a money making exercise (and nothing more) – but they don’t want you to know this.
Having to take the course within 3 months, I looked online at five possible venues within reasonable distance and the available dates. Each of the five venues listed dates available to me. From memory, each venue had an available date approximately every other week (offering either a morning or afternoon session).
I can advise that at the location I attended, 50 persons were booked each of the days sessions (100 in total). Given the above information, you might surmise that within what I consider a reasonable distance of where I live, around 50 persons per day are attending such courses.
On arrival at the venue (an hotel), I asked the concierge how often the courses were run at the venue (knowing that I had been offered one date in every two weeks); he replied that they are run every day.
Given this information, you can surmise that within what I consider a reasonable distance of where I live, around 500 persons per day are attending such courses.
I can advise that the courses are just a money making exercise (and nothing more) – but they don’t want you to know this.
Having to take the course within 3 months, I looked online at five possible venues within reasonable distance and the available dates. Each of the five venues listed dates available to me. From memory, each venue had an available date approximately every other week (offering either a morning or afternoon session).
I can advise that at the location I attended, 50 persons were booked each of the days sessions (100 in total). Given the above information, you might surmise that within what I consider a reasonable distance of where I live, around 50 persons per day are attending such courses.
On arrival at the venue (an hotel), I asked the concierge how often the courses were run at the venue (knowing that I had been offered one date in every two weeks); he replied that they are run every day.
Given this information, you can surmise that within what I consider a reasonable distance of where I live, around 500 persons per day are attending such courses.
As a law abiding citizen I've no direct knowledge of the courses but I imagine it's a bit like Driver CPC.
5 x £100 then £100 a year to keep your card valid. Europe wide apparently. Just another stealth tax.
You wouldn't have a job in the first place if you didn't already know what I sat through with some Martin Brundle soundalike droning on and ending almost every sentence with 'yeah?'
5 x £100 then £100 a year to keep your card valid. Europe wide apparently. Just another stealth tax.
You wouldn't have a job in the first place if you didn't already know what I sat through with some Martin Brundle soundalike droning on and ending almost every sentence with 'yeah?'
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Forgot to say, the one thing I learnt was that a highway consisting of two or more lanes in one direction, is not what makes the road a dual carriageway (and therefore if signed at national speed: 70mph not 60mph).
What makes a highway, a dual carriageway is some dividing barrier between the opposing directions of traffic. And therefore a highway of one lane in each direction with some form of barrier between them, is a dual carriageway.
As the presenter explained; if you can roll a tennis ball over the road surface from one curb side to the other without any obstruction – then the road is not a dual carriage way (so now you know).
What makes a highway, a dual carriageway is some dividing barrier between the opposing directions of traffic. And therefore a highway of one lane in each direction with some form of barrier between them, is a dual carriageway.
As the presenter explained; if you can roll a tennis ball over the road surface from one curb side to the other without any obstruction – then the road is not a dual carriage way (so now you know).
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