Just Asking

[jennyjoan]

Can you buy brand new Hyundai 10 with gears. Not automatic

[tiggerblue10]

It automatically goes into 2nd gear, jj.

[jennyjoan]

well isn't that good (or maybe not) -

[jennyjoan]

do you any of you know about this - as I have said my neighbour has automatic but she also has gear stick too.

[ToraToraTora]

the "gear stick" in many automatics is the selector, it just looks similar. Some automatics just have a knob, some have a lever on the steering wheel.

[ToraToraTora]

Eg here is a Jag selector, looks like a gear stick and in this case can work like one but most people use P, R and D only
https://tinyurl.com/2p8dbfjw

[Khandro]

bednobs; //Auto s tend to be more expensive both to buy and fix//

Wrong on both counts. I've had lots of automatics over the years, mostly Mercedes & Hondas & never had any gearbox problems of which I had many in my manual cars.
Also, because you're always in the 'right' gear, it is much easier on the engine.
Overtaking? just press hard on the pedal & kickdown drops you straight into a lower gear for more torque.
Also jenny, you will find it so much better in traffic, saving all that in-out of the clutch & gear changes.

I have driven quite a bit in the USA & it's more or less impossible to find a manual car there.

[barry1010]

I live in a very hilly area and my Hyundai copes very well uphill

[Canary42]

///...automatics just have a knob...///

Usually sitting in the driver's seat ;-)

[tiggerblue10]

I've got a crappy 18yr old fiesta which doesn't cope very well uphill.

[MWG14]

I have had two or three automatics, provided by my employer, but was thankful to go back to manuals once I retired. I never had a problem changing gear.

[bhg481]

If you are buying second-hand I think a big advantage of buying an automatic is that it's most unlikely to have been abused by previous owners. You have to really try hard to over-rev or labour the engine in an automatic; they just won't let you do it. I think, in general, they are much less likely to have been owned by a "boy-racer" and they certainly won't have been driven by a person who abuses the clutch.

[ToraToraTora]

khandro: "bednobs; //Auto s tend to be more expensive both to buy and fix//" - I will echo that, manual cars tend to have a lot of problems caused by the drivers ham fisted gear changes. An auto does it perfect itself every time putting far less strain on all the related components. I know a couple of local mechanics and they say nearly all their gearbox related work is for manual cars. I've owned many automatics over the years and the engine/gearbox/drive trains have never been a problem.

[ladybirder]

Would jj benefit from a couple of driving lessons in an automatic to help her make up her mind?

[Khandro]

lb: //Would jj benefit from a couple of driving lessons in an automatic to help her make up her mind?//
Yes, probably, but there is very little to learn, it's more a question of un-learning.
The thing that many people find disconcerting, & only takes a couple of minutes to understand, is the 'creep' aspect. That is, when you engage 'drive' or 'reverse' with the selector, your foot must be holding down on the brake pedal, as you release it, the car will move slowly on it's own, backwards or forwards depending which you selected. This is useful when manoeuvring in a confined space. You only need to press back on the brake at any time to stop this - YOU are always in control.
Easy-peasy !

[bednobs]

it's odd you should say i'm wrong kahndo. Just been on the hyundai website - and exact like for like model is more expensive if you have it in Automatic as if you have it in manual.
I also never said autos go wrong mre often, just that they generally seem more expensive to fix when they do

[Hymie]

The first automatic I drove was my brother’s 3 speed Ford Granada – it had the added complexity of an idling issue, which needed you to keep your foot on the accelerator to stop it stalling when cold (so required two footed driving). Honest John (Telegraph motoring correspondent) recommends this style of auto driving, but I don’t.

Not long after – driving in the USA, I discovered that an automatic will roll backwards if the incline is steep enough; something I was advised could not happen.

[Khandro]

bednobs; They may be a bit more expensive to buy new, but they keep their value better than manual cars, so it evens out.

[bednobs]

maybe, but that's not what you asked. i presume that also means they are also more expensive to buy 2nd hand i was merely answering your question as to why people might not want an auto. you might not have to worry about how much your car costs but others might

[THECORBYLOON]

From Kwik Fit,

"The disadvantages

Not only are automatics more expensive to buy than manual cars, but getting them repaired can be costly too. This type of vehicle requires more maintenance than a manual, mainly due its more complex design.

Automatic cars rely on the torque converter to shift gears. While this is good news for you as a driver, it does mean that they are less fuel efficient. In turn, you could find that this type of car requires filling up more often than a manual vehicle."

[barry1010]

My auto is 12 years old and has only had the usual replaced - tyres, brakes and windscreen wipers. Flies through the MOT every year.