Bikers why are you queing in traffic??

[R1Geezer]

Saw one today in a long traffic queue. Ok heads up bikers, Geezer ranting time.

You are a bike you do not wait in traffic, sad people in slow moving steel boxes wait in traffic. They have protection from the elements and safety, the price they pay for that is traffic queues. We are vulnerable and exposed, our reward is that we have been given superior road skill to filter past the SMSB's and avoid them doing stupid things. Capiesch?

So bikers you know who you are, you do not wait in traffic, otherwise you may as well get a car. That applies to even those among you who have seen fit not to get an R1 and also scooters, even the gay ones ok?

[redcrx]

perhaps theyve not long passed their bike tests?
perhaps they feel safer queing
perhaps theyve had a knock from a car before and are more wary.

come on, give them a break, if they want to queue then let them! You can pass them by or filter and not give them a second thought!

[redcrx]

"our reward is that we have been given superior road skill to filter past the SMSB's"

superior road skills? lol

[jake-the-peg]

I'd like to take this opportunity on behalf of transplant patients to thank all you bikers for your chosen mode of transport.

Just lay off of the booze OK - think of the guys looking for new kidneys eh?

[DrFilth]

having had a couple of mates put in hospital through filtering . i tend to stay in the queue. my beast is not as nimble as an R1





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[Panic Button]

I was crawling in very heavy traffic on the M25 in my artic the other day, watching the maniacs on bikes weaving between lanes and gaps without indicating.

Surprise surprise, a car indicated and moved from lane 3 to lane 2 and caught a bike rocketing up. The biker stayed on, but by his body language he obviously felt it was all the car drivers fault. If the impact had been any harder he would have gone under my trailer wheels.

If I rode a bike any more I would be riding defensively Geez. Don't you?

[daniela31]

I thought a bike rider was entitled to the same ammount of road as someone in a car.
It's not about 'space' to manouver(?) or wether or not they can dodge around vehicles.....It's a matter of safety..
Queing up in traffic is the safe method......weaving about between cars is dangerous.

[R1Geezer]

I've been riding 30 years and filter every time, I have never hit a car. I did have some very good training from the old Bill though and there are techniques to filter safely. You have to treat cars like stray dogs, assume they are going to do something stupid and you won't be far wrong.

[Postdog]

Well I am a cyclist, not a biker, but the principle is the same.

If I wanted to kill myself, I'd weave in an out, but the simple fact is drivers just do not check when in that situation that they can move to the side - they just do it.

I'd rather wait behind a car thank you.

[R1Geezer]

Of course also most modern bikes would overheat in traffic especially the air cooled ones, so that's another reason why we filter.

[daniela31]

It's not bl00dy compulsary!!
If someone wants to sit in traffic....why not let them do it??
You are making an argument here about 'choice'

[DrFilth]

when the cooling comes on you use a lot more petrol, think i may start knocking a few mirrors off.




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[DrFilth]

it is LEGAL daniela





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[redcrx]

we dont know if geezer rides well or responsibly. He may be a very competant rider.
BUT i dont agree that those that dont filter or overtake should be encouraged to do so by other bikers.

[daniela31]

Dr Filth....did you misinterperet my answer?
I meant it wasn't compulsary for bike riders to weave in and out of traffic.
R1geezer is inciting bike riders to comit dangerous actions, putting both themselves, and other in danger.

[R1Geezer]

well doc spock, I survived this long with numpties like you on the road, some and get me plonker!

There are some idiots of course but generally as a biker if you hit something it bl00dy hurts so we tend to ride in such a way that we don't hit things. If car drivers did time on a biker first there'd be a lot less accidents.

[DrFilth]

One Million Illegal Drivers in UK
No justice when illegal drivers kill on roads
If you're a motorist with road tax, insurance, MoT and a valid licence then can you think of a good reason why one million other motorists are allowed to get away without any of these legal requirements?

These law breakers are not a small minority. The Department for Transport estimate that at least 1 million people are driving illegally while random police checks suggest the figure could be as high as 5 million. In 2002 there were 315,000 convictions for driving without insurance, up 18% on the previous year. However, the average fine was just �150, a snip considering the average insurance premium is �350 and far more for the young men who are the majority of offenders. Nineteen year old Lee Colligan, fined �75 in September 2004, said "There's a choice between the off-chance of a �75 fine or paying more than �1000 to insure a car for a year. That's not much of a choice for someone who is unemployed living in Liverpool." Or anywhere else in the country for that matter.

More Facts
Uninsured drivers are 10 times more likely to drink and drive and be involved in an accident. They are 6 times more likely to be driving an unroadworthy vehicle and 3 times more likely to be convicted of driving without due care and attention. By failing to register a car with the DVLA or giving false information allows drivers to appear as ghosts to speed cameras or any incident where a number plate is the only means of identifying the driver.

If the police focus less on speed cameras and more on tackling illegal drivers then the roads will become much safer. On top of that insurance premiums would fall because crashes involving uninsured drives costs �500m a year and adds �30 to �60 to each insurance policy.

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[DrFilth]

One of the most dangerous groups of illegal motorists are unaccountable immigrants who haven't taken a British driving test or learnt the Highway Code. Several fatal incidents have highlighted the growing problems




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