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parking infront of a house but was told not to
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I have a problem and need clarification. I have parked outside someone's house in order to pick my kids up from school and it's literally 20 mins max. The property owner came out and said that I shouldn't park there as she came back from work and had to park a bit further away from the house, about three houses down. And out of curtsey i should park elsewhere. I said it hasnt' got a drop down curb and i have every right to park there. After her swearing in front of my kids to f*** off, i was furious and said you can call the council to check. Anyway their front wall of their garden has been knocked down and there's a permanent car parked inside and it's not that they had to move that car but for them to park a further two cars in front of their house. That was friday and monday came her husband came out this time and said that he has someone coming and would like me to move when that car comes so they could park in front of their house. I said i wont' until i have picked up my kids which would take max 20 mins. I said i have every right park there as it'a public road and he agreed. but still want me to move as that car needs to park there. it ended with him saying let the council sort it out. I said great and was on my mobile calling the council as i was doubting myself. Anyway they said i was right. But when i got back he made a point of being on the phone and telling whoever is on the other end my licence plate number.
sorry for being long winded, but my question is since his front garden wall has been knocked down, do i still have a right to park there even tho it's not a drop down curb, and would i get clamped etc?
thank you very much in advance for reading and hopefully will get some answers.
sorry for being long winded, but my question is since his front garden wall has been knocked down, do i still have a right to park there even tho it's not a drop down curb, and would i get clamped etc?
thank you very much in advance for reading and hopefully will get some answers.
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A couple of points to correct.
Firstly it isn't planning permission they require - it is permission from the Highways Dept. Only docspock realises this. Planning permission is a statutory process under the Town & Country Planning Act(s).
Secondly, as far as I know, it is not a specific offence under the Highways Acts to take a motor vehicle less than 15 yards off the public carriageway (though it is an offence to PARK on the verge or footpath), but they do need Highways Dept to sanction the passage of the vehicle over the verge / footpath. This is done via the 'dropped kerb' sanction.
Firstly it isn't planning permission they require - it is permission from the Highways Dept. Only docspock realises this. Planning permission is a statutory process under the Town & Country Planning Act(s).
Secondly, as far as I know, it is not a specific offence under the Highways Acts to take a motor vehicle less than 15 yards off the public carriageway (though it is an offence to PARK on the verge or footpath), but they do need Highways Dept to sanction the passage of the vehicle over the verge / footpath. This is done via the 'dropped kerb' sanction.
I dont' use my car that often to drop the kids off, and if you read it was because my oldest was not well and wanted to stay in the car, and the morning i do as i need to drop my youngest to nursery as it's not a walkable distance. But even today i didn't park outside their house but another street as in the morning i need to use the car.
the owner of the property came out first time, she said she wanted to park outside her own house and i should park elsewhere, the second time the husband said his brother is coming round and need to park in front of their own house. If you want me to think they have their car broken into recently that''s fine, or his wife is pregnant that's fine, but when i was pregnant 8 months, my neighbour opposite asked me to move my car as he needs to park their car there, but there was no where to park and he has his own driveway. The point is why is such a big deal.
Just say it has nothing to do with picking up the kids etc, so can i not park anywhere else in london if it's in front of someone's house.
the owner of the property came out first time, she said she wanted to park outside her own house and i should park elsewhere, the second time the husband said his brother is coming round and need to park in front of their own house. If you want me to think they have their car broken into recently that''s fine, or his wife is pregnant that's fine, but when i was pregnant 8 months, my neighbour opposite asked me to move my car as he needs to park their car there, but there was no where to park and he has his own driveway. The point is why is such a big deal.
Just say it has nothing to do with picking up the kids etc, so can i not park anywhere else in london if it's in front of someone's house.
I'm speaking for others, ummmm.
I don't have parking issues.
I don't do a school run and, as Yogi would no doubt verify, you just DO NOT take a car into town here. If you so much as slow down for traffic lights, the traffic wardens fine you, clamp you, crush your vehicle and throw you in jail.
Besides ... the last time I took one of my cars into the town, some oik ran something sharp down the side of it.
I don't have parking issues.
I don't do a school run and, as Yogi would no doubt verify, you just DO NOT take a car into town here. If you so much as slow down for traffic lights, the traffic wardens fine you, clamp you, crush your vehicle and throw you in jail.
Besides ... the last time I took one of my cars into the town, some oik ran something sharp down the side of it.
Just humour me christmas. What sort of car do you drive?
Essentially what I am getting from your post is that you feel you have more rights than them. Sorry, neither of you do.
Human courtesy (something which the current society i lacking) would say that considering they have to live with people parking outside their house twice a day, everyday day; you would cut them a bit of slack and move to the space two places down rather than expect them to do it.
You're lucky their so patient. I wouldn't have been.
Essentially what I am getting from your post is that you feel you have more rights than them. Sorry, neither of you do.
Human courtesy (something which the current society i lacking) would say that considering they have to live with people parking outside their house twice a day, everyday day; you would cut them a bit of slack and move to the space two places down rather than expect them to do it.
You're lucky their so patient. I wouldn't have been.
When I bought my current house I only viewed it on a weekend when the sellers were at home and was assured it was a lovely quiet street.
I moved in during August and it was great. Come September all the chavs appeared in their crappy cars with music blaring, and parked outside to take the little chavettes to the primary school round the corner........they think nothing of blocking my driveway, and considering the size of the majority of them a walk to school would be good for the parents let alone the children.
I moved in during August and it was great. Come September all the chavs appeared in their crappy cars with music blaring, and parked outside to take the little chavettes to the primary school round the corner........they think nothing of blocking my driveway, and considering the size of the majority of them a walk to school would be good for the parents let alone the children.
i dont' know why some people are so negative. I do walk to pick up the kids after school, and if you read my thread, it's because my eldest was not well and wanted to stay in the car and wait.
Anyway, thank you for the people who clarified the situation, which is IF i needed to park there I wouldn't be breaking the law.
Anyway, thank you for the people who clarified the situation, which is IF i needed to park there I wouldn't be breaking the law.
A friend of mine lives on a street of bungalows where all the inhabitants are either pensioners or disabled, it is also very close to the local school and they always had trouble with people blocking them in etc even where they have dropped kerbs. Eventually after a lot of verbal and on one occassion physical abuse they all started parking their cars, all nice and legal on the road not their drives no nobody but residents can get parked on the street
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Bob ...
I didn't read it as if christmas was claiming "more" rights ... just equal rights (on a public road, which is presumably maintained equally by christmas and the owner, through their taxes).
And look ... when you buy a house, you buy the area.
When I bought my flat, I knew that it would be constantly covered in sea salt and seagull sh!t.
If you buy a house by a school, you have to tolerate the school run.
You can't change the world, just because you buy a house !
I didn't read it as if christmas was claiming "more" rights ... just equal rights (on a public road, which is presumably maintained equally by christmas and the owner, through their taxes).
And look ... when you buy a house, you buy the area.
When I bought my flat, I knew that it would be constantly covered in sea salt and seagull sh!t.
If you buy a house by a school, you have to tolerate the school run.
You can't change the world, just because you buy a house !
Sorry JJ whilst youare right about you buying the area, that is still no excuse for equally boorish behaviour from the Mums doing deliveries and pickups in their Chelsea tractors.
Parking to block people's drives and refusing to move when they want to access them, parking on the pavement to completely block them to force everybody to walk in the road, parking on double yellow lines, or even this morning on the chevrons supposedly their to keep their little darlings safe outside the school, with their hazard lights on whilst they have a fag and a chat........ The w@nkers are not just the residents!
Parking to block people's drives and refusing to move when they want to access them, parking on the pavement to completely block them to force everybody to walk in the road, parking on double yellow lines, or even this morning on the chevrons supposedly their to keep their little darlings safe outside the school, with their hazard lights on whilst they have a fag and a chat........ The w@nkers are not just the residents!
i dont' have more right then them, i just have the same right. there was no one parking there, and i have the same right that was all. I live on a school street myself and i dont' expect parents to move their cars if i was waiting for a friend to come over. I just dont' think it's right but i didn't park there to save myself the trouble today. But there was still someone who parked there when i walked by.
And when i do park my car in front of someone's house, i make sure i am not blocking anyone's driveway. anyway i think i got enough answers now, i dont' want to keep explaining what i am doing parking outside someone else's house. thank you for those replied.
And when i do park my car in front of someone's house, i make sure i am not blocking anyone's driveway. anyway i think i got enough answers now, i dont' want to keep explaining what i am doing parking outside someone else's house. thank you for those replied.
JJ I completly agree with the fact that you get the area when you buy a house. Same reason I have no sympathy for the Heathrow lot.
However, I read the post as christmas saying she doesn't see why she has to move her car from outside Mr and Mrs X house. I'm playing devils advocate (and also getting so tired of the current "I'm ok, so screw everyone else" attitude that pervades our society) and trying to make her see what the people who live there are having to put up with.
However, I read the post as christmas saying she doesn't see why she has to move her car from outside Mr and Mrs X house. I'm playing devils advocate (and also getting so tired of the current "I'm ok, so screw everyone else" attitude that pervades our society) and trying to make her see what the people who live there are having to put up with.
you keep saying it was because your oldest was not well and wanted to stay in the car???? but have gave no reason for doing it the other times,sorry but if your taking it so your child can stay in the car i am presuming that you are parking near the school which you shouldn't be doing anyway ,would you like someone to come and park out side your house every morning for 20 mins so you cant park at your house?
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I feel your annoyance!
I don't have a car but my next door neighbour does. Actually, he has a car and his work van. Once upon a time our friends from down south came to stay with us and they parked outside his house to unpack their car (someone was already in front of ours). Said neighbour turned up in his van about 2 seconds later and was adamant they should move - his van needed to be there in case he got a call for leaked gas (!) through the night and had to go out. Not sure why it HAD to be outside his house for him to get away through the night, but never mind - he is a bit of an old woman!!
So I'm well aware of people who kick up a stink for parking outside of their house - but then usually those people are the ones who have no problem in parking outside of others houses too when it suits them (like when they have two vehicles)!!!
Moan over !!
I don't have a car but my next door neighbour does. Actually, he has a car and his work van. Once upon a time our friends from down south came to stay with us and they parked outside his house to unpack their car (someone was already in front of ours). Said neighbour turned up in his van about 2 seconds later and was adamant they should move - his van needed to be there in case he got a call for leaked gas (!) through the night and had to go out. Not sure why it HAD to be outside his house for him to get away through the night, but never mind - he is a bit of an old woman!!
So I'm well aware of people who kick up a stink for parking outside of their house - but then usually those people are the ones who have no problem in parking outside of others houses too when it suits them (like when they have two vehicles)!!!
Moan over !!
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