Question For The Remainers........

[ToraToraTora]

If you could would you now want to stay in the EU? I mean after we have gone this far toward brexit surely if we abandoned brexit the EU would punish us so severely that even the most enthusiastic Europhile would balk at staying in.

[ABSpareEditor]

I have moved this thread into the category "Current Affairs".

[ToraToraTora]

why? no one will see it

[ABSpareEditor]

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[ToraToraTora]

.....but not in the main category.

[AuntLydia]

I think if we decided to remain in the EU it would have the opposite effect. It would show other countries tottering on the brink that the UK decided that going it alone was not doable . UK leaving the EU successfully may prompt other countries to consider doing the same.

[Mamyalynne]

I voted remain and despite the way you constantly phrase it have never moaned - bar one thing, I just wish they had been more prepared for the result of the referendum and things had moved quicker.

Re the general thrust of your thread, I'm not sure how the EU would either view or treat us.

[anotheoldgit]

No worry TTT, I have pointed out similar in my recent news thread.

/// Do any of those who would wish us to return to the EU consider what kind of treatment we would then receive from our European masters? ///

/// Knowing that we wouldn't now leave them, they would impose many sanctions upon us, the Euro for one. ///

[jim360]

I highly doubt we'd be "forced" to use the Euro, or anything else for that matter. By definition, EU member states hold at least some veto powers against measures they don't like.

[Rockrose]

I'd happily stay in.

[sandyRoe]

There is more joy in heaven over one sinner that repenteth.

[ichkeria]

Lol sandy

It’s already been mooted by the French that the U.K. would stay in the EU under the current terms. Which are actually very favourable.
Why would they want to ‘punish’ us? That’s happening now, or sowe are always told.

I do agree with tora about the sub folders tho. I’ve never seen the point of them as implemented here

[Kromovaracun]

One of my many problems with Brexit is that, for all the drawbacks of the current situation, it's never been clear what exactly the alternative is. Some Brexiteers want us to become an international tax haven (which sounds like a disaster to me), some want us to be a free and active trader with the rest of the world (which sounds like a fantasy to me), and others want us to sidestep into EEA so as to make things a bit easier for manufacturers (which seems sort of reasonable to me but I'm not convinced it is worth the hassle).

Just to pre-empt the usual response, I understand the argument which says 'these are options for us and that's the point.' But in my opinion I just don't think it makes any sense to embark on a huge undertaking like leaving the EU without a clear strategy as to what will replace it. As far as I can see, there still isn't one. So yes, I'd still prefer to stay in because it still isn't clear to me what Brexit actually means.

Regarding the EU 'punishment' - well, it's obvious that they don't want to set a precedent that other governments might follow. That was obvious going into the referendum. If Brexit is so easily sabotaged by an outside party then I'm even less convinced that this is a good idea.

[jno]

on what grounds, and how, would Britain be "punished"? It's a member now, and it stays a member. You might fail to win back the EU bodies that have already moved out, and the corporations too for that matter, but I imagine they'd eventually return.

[KARL]

The EU is not punishing the UK for leaving - the UK is leaving and for the future is trying to arrange an outsider's agreement beyond the norm (WTO etc.). The UK would gain if it gets what it wants, the EU would gain if the conditions are right. The two are talking (sometimes) and maybe an agreement will result but, one would assume, only if it suits both or at least both accept it - that has not been the case while the UK has been a member (repeated UK moans) so maybe the EU has learned not to bother making agreements with the UK ("changed our minds, don't like it anymore, Wah, kick, scream, insist on a concession"). There is no reason to think that the EU would punish any member, whether old, new, or returning.

[kvalidir]

Yes I would like to remain, simple. It's better for me personally and it's better for the country.

[Mamyalynne]

Good to see this sub topic is now easily accessible from the main News Topic page, when everyone sees the links you may get more replies.