Where's The Sense In Voting Labour?

[naomi24]

Labour intend hitting businesses and oil companies with high taxes. The result will be that the cost is passed on to the consumer meaning potential job losses and higher prices for everything, including fuel. The people least likely to be able to afford higher prices are the poor. Since concern for the poor is an on-going theme here, can anyone who is concerned for the poor but is nevertheless intending to vote Labour, rationalise their choice? Where is the sense in voting Labour?

[davebro]

No we didn.t - we voted against a change from FPTP to AV voting system. PR was never put to the vote. Again the referendum question wasn't properly thought through and adequately presented.

[Theland]

First past the post is unfair, and the voting system could do with reform.

[johnny.5]

but a lot of MPs in their position would not be in their position under PR so would not be too keen to change the system

[emmie]

no they wouldn't want to change it

[Theland]

True. That is part of the problem as Farage has said, too many career politicians with little experience of the real world, more concerned with self preservation.

[waterboatman]

What is unfair about the person getting the most votes being elected?

[emmie]

no idea boaty

[Theland]

Davebro at 05:45 spelled it out.

[Gromit]

The Conservatives, Labour and LibDems are all promising a Carbon Neutral Britain in the near future. That means we will be cutting down on the use of fossil fuels. While that is good for the planet and everyones health, it will be bad for the hundreds of thousand of people employed in the oil and gas industries.
When the Conservatives closed down the British Coal industry, there was no planning on what to do with the people who were made unemployed. Communities were devastated and many ex-miners became long term jobless.
The Tax that Labour would introduce if they are elected (they won’t be) is to set up a fund to retrain and re-employ all the oil and gas workers who will lose their jobs. It is forward planning (there’s a novelty), and will avert a lot of misery for a large number of people. It is a good idea, but unlikely to be implemented.

// The next Labour government will create a Just Transition Fund, paid for by a new windfall tax on these corporations. The Fund will, in particular, provide an expected £11 billion support package for nearly 37,000 oil and gas workers, the 126,000 people in jobs dependent on the sector and their communities to make the transition to a clean economy. //

[naomi24]

Theland, so now you’ve gone from ‘nurses’ to ‘student nurses’ using food banks. You may as well say you would expect apprentice carpenters to earn as much as master craftsmen. And how many ‘student nurses’ are you talking about? If these girls were queuing up to use food banks you can rest assured that the left-leaning media, not to mention Corbyn’s slimy propaganda machine, would be making a meal of it right now - but they’re not - so why aren’t they? Furthermore, you seem to forget that the first food bank in this country appeared on Labour’s watch.

Beso at 01:09 Sun. ?

Gromit, once again you’ve failed to provide a link - but the prospect of thousands upon thousands of people out of work adequately illustrates my original point. Sounds heartening doesn't it.

[10ClarionSt]

Ab Editor - is this website a subdivision of the Daily Mail?
A branch of the Conservative Party? Just askin'

[naomi24]

10ClarionSt, why are you askin' at all? No Daily Mail link from me.

[Gromit]

naomi24

It is the Labour Party General Election Manifesto 2019.

[Gromit]

// but the prospect of thousands upon thousands of people out of work adequately illustrates my original point. Sounds heartening doesn't it. //

You seem to be conveniently ignoring the fact that the Conservatives have also pledged the country to Zero Emissions. (But they haven’t said what those made unemployed by their pledge, will do).

[naomi24]

Gromit, okay. I wonder if anyone's asked them what jobs they have lined up for this huge redundant workforce to 'transition' to?

[stevenj]

Vote tactically! If at all possible we must stop Johnson and his pathetic cabinet ( can you name any except Rees Mogg and they are hiding him!) .Not to mention the ERG. Imagine having them rule us for five years. Tremble!

[naomi24]

Gromit, //You seem to be conveniently ignoring the fact that the Conservatives have also pledged the country to Zero Emissions. (But they haven’t said what those made unemployed by their pledge, will do). //

No sense in creating unemployment - which is probably why they haven't said they will.

[naomi24]

stevenj, why doesn't the prospect of thousands and thousands being put out of work make you tremble? Do you like that idea?

[emmie]

no one should like the idea of thousands out of work