Ah, now doesn't that make you feel proud?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co...ts/view/250692/250692

/// Amman, 30, who claims to come from Afghanistan, said: “If we try to claim asylum in France we are treated like dogs. Nobody respects us and we are beaten by the police.///

/// “The British system is completely different. Money is available and people are friendly. We will be given asylum and we can find jobs and houses. My aim is to bring my family over from Afghanistan once I am settled.” ///

It would appear then that France isn't bogged down with Europe's bill on Human Rights then, so perhaps that is where we are going wrong?

[emmie]

do you honestly think many would come here if we didn't have the welfare state, where you will likely be given money, housing, school for the children and medical care. I don't see that as being fair, what is wrong with Britain, is that it is seen as a cash cow by many who come here, and no i don't care for the fact of the many Brits who were born here never having worked and getting benefits either. I don't support any right wing party like BNP, or EDL, but do see that successive governments have created this problem, and they will swan off to their ivory towers and leave the people to fight it out. I don't care for the fact the area we live in now looks a slum when it didn't before, due to the massive influx of immigrants. we are not nimbys, nor patently racist, knuckle dragging morons, but just fed up residents wondering where the country we supported all our lives went to.

[kinell]

imho there are only two types of immigrant..

the poncing type,

the cowardly type,

neither are attributes that i see as having any potential benefit to our society....we have more than enough already

[R1Geezer]

well I don't often praise our Froggy mates but hey credit where it's due! Just underlines why we are the softest touch in the world.

[rov1100]

We are the dustbin of the world. You have only to go round the shanty towns to see how the future will pan out. I think some people on AB would like it that way. As it is its almost impossible in some areas to believe you are still living in Britain. Talk about finding your level to the lowest denominator.

[anotheoldgit]

tamborine

/// Its the younger workers taxes that keep pensioners. ///

Then please tell me who kept you and most likely your parents, wasn't it these same pensioners taxes when they were of working age?

[New Judge]

Actually, AOG, I always take issue with those who suggest that it is current workers/taxpayers who are providing for current pensions.

Most working people have provided for their own pensions. Many have paid into private or occupational schemes and all have paid income tax and, in particular, National Insurance throughout their working lives in the expectation that those funds will be invested on their behalf to provide income in retirement.

Of course the private and occupational schemes do just that. But their contributions to the State scheme have been frittered away by successive governments and a large part of those funds have been used to provide so-called “pensions” (i.e. benefits) to people have contributed little or nothing to the pot.

It is not the fault of the current pensioners that State pensions are run like a glorified Ponzi scheme. They have had their cash taken from them at source and they would have been able to do a lot better with it had they not been forced to provide for those who have not provided for themselves. And when it comes to payout time, because of means testing they usually receive less State pension than those who have contributed nothing.