Return of capital punishment?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....istraught-sister.html

Is this case a prime example of why in certain circumstances capital punishment should return in Britain?

Here we have a savage monster who has killed and committed other vile sex crimes even before he murdered Milly Dowler, and yet he is to spend the rest of his life in prison at the taxpayer's expense.

[anotheoldgit]

brionon

/// The REAL argument against is that Mistakes are made.///

I would think that that wouldn't happen today.

The death penalty if reintroduced, would only take place in the very few extreme cases, such as this one.

Do you think in your wildest dreams that this odious creature might be found innocent some day down the line?

[emmie]

The judiciary should make up its mind, life to mean life, no get out of jail free card, just because you have been a good boy, peter sutcliffe killed thirteen women, and almost killed 7 more, and any other time or place, most likely would have been hanged, but he was allowed to appeal, he won't ever come out, but why was he ever allowed to appeal in the first place. He's not mad, i don't believe, just evil, and no one should have said it was anything other than life in prison, with no chance of appeal, or parole, same for this vile man. Fred West hanged himself, though even that's debatable, many believe he was got at, no problem with that at all.

[TWR]

Good answer EM, for a Killer M/F that are 100% proven, the chair, rope, Injection, end of a life! end of an evil person.

[rojash]

"Yes but much more expensive for the tax payer £37,500 per year. So this works out at £102.74 per day."

Ah, so what you are arguing is that we should kill people for monetary gain. Isn't there a word for that?

[sir.prize]

rojash - ///Ah, so what you are arguing is that we should kill people for monetary gain.///

most probably the dead yob would have done just that.

[Zeuhl]

You either think killing another people is wrong or you think it's ok in certain circumstances.

Levi Bellfield thought it was ok in certain circumstances - I don't.

So no to state killing.

Also, i think it is dubious legally and morally that while there is always going to be a risk of mistakes, that there is some sort of two-tier system where murderers we're sure about are killed and those we're not 100% sure are just imprisoned!

Seems unworkable to me.

And the argument 'you'd feel different if it was your daughter' is irrelevant. Our laws should be formulated by the rational and objective - not the distressed and affected.

Frankly, if someone hurt my dog i'd be so upset I'd probably want them 'topped' but I accept that is hardly a good basis for the Law of the land.
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[Zeuhl]

<<another people>>

or another person even!

[emmie]

I am neither distressed nor affected, nor have i had a child murdered, but you can feel distress and anger for the family. And they with some justification feel let down, by a system that does seem, no matter that he has now got a full life sentence, to let people down. Hang, don't hang, i no longer care, but if it was my child i would want them dead.

[Zeuhl]

<<but if it was my child i would want them dead. >>

So would I.

My point is em that Laws for all of us are best not made by people in that situation.

[joeluke]

If he'd killed my daughter I'd want to see him in the electric chair

I'd happily push the button

[emmie]

I agree, but an eye for an eye the bible says, and if he came my way, i wouldn't hesitate to put him where he belongs, in the ground.

[TWR]

Just think about what you have just said Housemose, I wonder if the Dowler family when reading a paper & seen & read about someones daughter getting murdered would have thought debate? you have the likes of Brady, Huntley, west shipston, These 2 saved the country money, & hundreds of others imprisoned at the cost of the public & at times released only to the same thing again, if a dog bites & maims, you put the thing down, if the person is found to intentionaly kill not only once but three times, the death sentence.

[TWR]

I don't think for any min Eddie that they have an easy life ( I hope they don't) I think it's in the public's view that the scum is getting fed whilst there are people out here on the bread line & pensioners having to choose having their food or putting the fire on whilst this basd is having the lot, I'm waiting on someone saying that they have it bad inside! do they? they have warmth, a mattress, TV, Video, laptop, & that is punishment? if it was left to me they would sleep on the floor, wash with cold water, & no luxuries, but after saying that this is the soft UK! Isn't it?

[jno]

/// The REAL argument against is that Mistakes are made.///

I would think that that wouldn't happen today.

Oh, have things changed since 2001?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_George

[emmie]

lets put the pensioners in the prisons, and let the prisoners be put in care homes, see how long they last, then at least the pensioners will get three square meals a day, no having to choose between heat or food, tv on tap, and friends to chat with, you don't have to lock the cells, Sports facilities to keep them active, nice guards to get you cigs and drugs if you need to keep your ticker going. I think it the only way, what do you reckon.

[mightyWBA]

Spot on em10
Our old folks,many of whom have worked all their lives and never committed a crime are worse off than child killers when it comes to care.

Shoot the b'stards