At last someone has the guts to speak out...

[trt]

and he has my backing, 100%

http://www.dailymail....ers-blood-speech.html

[netibiza]

Well, I think he is right. and it's not racist at all. I am fed up with do gooders shouting youth rights and racists at every turn!!

[Teddy_boy]

I'm intrigued that Starkey has such a unique in-depth knowledge of the cultural interests of those who took part in the violence.That this misogynist , homosexual historian , OAP who lives with his partner in a house in highbury and a manor house in kent, should profess to know so much about whats going on in the streets of tottenham really makes me laugh.The mans a buffoon and an idiot.
(im neither being homophobic or racist or ageist.just stating some facts )

[sandyRoe]

Would he find rough trade in Tottenham?

[emmie]

He may be those things and more, but he has some valid points, and why shouldn't he know about these things, i mean not all old people, myself included sit in rocking chairs, knitting, and listening to the wireless, we have eyes, ears, and can see for ourselves the state of play.

[Teddy_boy]

Gangs in the UK have been around for centuries.
Read this and educate yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.o...in_the_United_Kingdom

[Teddy_boy]

Does he meet many gangsters in his manor house in kent ?The mans as far removed from tottenham youth as david cameron or boris johnson.They all have their heads stuck firmly up their upper class arses.

[emmie]

If you are referring to me don't be so rude. We know that gangs have been around for centuries, in fact a lot longer, but that isn't the point. You can come up with old gangs of London, and other areas, but we are talking of the here and now, and the people who's homes, businesses were trashed don't care they come from Tottenham, Hampstead or anywhere, they want to see justice done, and the thieves caught and punished.

[Teddy_boy]

He was a supporter of the conservative campaign for homosexual equality. Would that be white middle class homosexuals? Is there no room for equality between blacks and whites in mr starkeys world ?The mans a walking contradiction.

[Teddy_boy]

Em10 your last post in its entirety has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the initial post. Mine however do.

[To-Ryscum]

got to agree- with Teddy B - on this one!

[Teddy_boy]

Im not saying youre not up to speed but even i know we have gone from wireless, to transistor and now to digital radio.This debate is about david starkey .

[To-Ryscum]

on Starkey- i mean !

[emmie]

I know it's about him, and as already said, there are points that he has made i agree with, and some others on here agree.

[mightyWBA]

Enoch was right.
It's as simple as that..Sorry if you disagree but it's a fact.

[joko]

whilst i agree that much of the youth of britain seem to have adopted a faux black gangstar culture, and seem to revel in pretending to be thugs - and adopted a bizarre (and annoying) hybrid accent...many also dont...and i dont agree that the reason white people rioted was because of this faux black nonsense
they rioted because they are thugs and thieves.

to my knowledge the gangstar hoods in the US are not particularly known for rioting anyway...

[emmie]

Joko, but they have been for killing one another, respect the name of that deadly game, and look to see how many kids are dying across London, in drug turf wars, and gang related murders.

[joko]

yes em...but thats not the point here...the point is trying to blame black people for the riots