EDF v UAF?

[anotheoldgit]

http://uaf.org.uk/201...lise-against-the-edl/

http://englishdefenceleague.org/tower-hamlet/

In the interests of equality, I post two links the first from the Unite Against Fascist's (UAF) web page, and the other from the English Defence League's (EDL) web page.

It is for others to judge which stands out as the most aggressive.

This also makes for interesting reading,

http://blogs.telegrap...eheaded-illiberalism/

[Gromit]

// Zaheer Ahmad, president of the National Association of Muslim Police, said: "There is a strong perception in the Muslim communities that the police service does not take the threat of right wing extremism seriously. This perception is fast becoming reality when communities witness an inconsistent, somewhat relaxed police approach to EDL demonstrations resulting in very few arrests and prosecutions. //

http://www.guardian.c...league-muslims-police

As the incident in Norway shows, we ignore extreme right wing nutters at our peril.

[emmie]

Gromit, as much as the Muslim fanatics, as bad as each other.
Brenden i didn't see anyone answer your post?

[Brenden]

I had noticed em, but am now interested in the fact that if these muslim groups consider themselves british why do they now have their own parliament, courts, and police force, I think this is one step too far. One english parliament, one set of laws and english courts for everybody who resides in this country.

[emmie]

Brenden, one doesn't have to be a member of EDL, BNP or any faction, to ask these questions, nor why the Tower Hamlets Mayor is pushing for the borough to get city status, which it has, in next years Queens Diamond jubilee.

[THECORBYLOON]

brenden, there is a Pensioners Parliament but that does not mean it sees itsel as being the same as Westminster. Muslims do not have their own police force, there is a Muslim association is the same way that there is a Christian one. With regards to Muslim Courts, they operate under the 1996 Arbitration Act.

[THECORBYLOON]

There is not an English Parliament by the way.

[Gromit]

Brendan,

There have been religious courts in Britain for centuries and no one seems to be bothered much.

// But not to all non-Muslims. It has often been remarked on how similar Muslims and Jews are in many of their traditions, such as food laws, burial rites and language, and this case could prove no exception. Jewish courts are in daily use in Britain, and have been for centuries.


We can't drag people in off the streets
David Frei
Registrar, The London Beth Din
British Jews, particularly the orthodox, will frequently turn to their own religious courts, the Beth Din, to resolve civil disputes, covering issues as diverse as business and divorce.

"There's no compulsion", the registrar of the London Beth Din, David Frei, said. "We can't drag people in off the streets."

Both sides in a dispute must be Jewish, obviously, and must have agreed to have their case heard by the Beth Din. Once that has happened, its eventual decision is binding. English law states that any third party can be agreed by two sides to arbitrate in a dispute, and in this case the institutional third party is the Beth Din.

The Beth Din also takes care of a multitude of Jewish community affairs, many of which never give rise to any dispute: the dates of the Sabbath, kosher certification of caterers and bakers, medical ethics for Jewish patients and religious conversions. But it is in the areas of divorce and litigation that the Beth Din acts as a court in the western sense. //

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7233040.stm