Sqad, i think many people do know this deep down, but like a lot of things they are resistant to change. One thing i read was to do with catering in hospitals, which i would add is usually abysmal, on costing, and that it would be a lot cheaper for patients to bring in food, than can be supplied by the hospital. They gave various examples and the cost to the NHS hospital was astronomical. It doesn't surprise me that much of the food is binned, often patients can't eat, or don't want to, and then there is the disgraceful matter of seeing elderly patients being left to fend for themselves, where food is shoved on a tray, out of reach and no one to help. Been in that situation, and seen it when visiting my mother, horrible.