I Want Out Of The EU

[AB Editor]

 

This poll is closed.

Recently a popular tabloid has claimed that "Most Want Out" of the European Union, do you?

• Yes! "I Want Out" of the EU - 190 votes
• 77%
• No! I Don't. - 57 votes
• 23%

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Stats until: 12:02 Thu 19th Dec 2024 (Refreshed every 5 minutes)

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[AB Editor]

Further discussion can be found here: http://www.theanswerb.../Question1063170.html

[bibblebub]

since the majority of newspaper links posted on AB are for the DM, who knows which way this vote will go?

[Ankou]

not many voting. is this voter apathy ?

[AB Editor]

I think AB is actually a fairly good representation of the UK public and has proven in the past to split fairly evenly over big issues like this.

[emmie]

seeing how many profess to dislike/hate the paper, i often wonder why so many point to it, as though to prove that their paper, or views are more worthy, balanced. I have voted, and it wouldn't be because of some newspaper.

[jno]

Ed, a point I made yesterday on the other thread is that ABers are unrepresentatively old - 55% over 60, according to that poll you did - and that older people in general are more likely to want to get out of Europe and resume trading with the colonies. So this poll might not produce the same result as a referendum held across all ages of society.

[Ankou]

we point to it to show how shockingly inaccurate, biased and hypocritical it can be.

anyway, its a digression wgaf about the dm.

[DrFilth]

on the link the ed has posted
page 1 express, today, today

page 2 wiki answers, bbc

page 3 wiki

none to the daily mail

[emmie]

60 is not old, i wish some would get that point.

[Mosaic]

I think its worth looking seriously at how it should be changed, especially slimming down the fat cats at the top. But keeping a sense of common purpose in europe has helped us not start another war here, and with EU grants the region I live in would be a wasteland as all its industries have long gone.

[jno]

em, it doesn't matter what age you think is 'old', the fact remains there are far more over-60 ABers than there are over-60s in the general population. (AB: 55%; England: about 20%)

Also, almost 60% of ABers are retired.

Jolly nice as it may be settle down listening to ABers grumbling into their Ovaltine about how the country's going downhiill, their age profile means they are not representative of the community at large.

[emmie]

Then why not have a representive view by those under 60's on AB

[rojash]

"and that older people in general are more likely to want to get out of Europe and resume trading with the colonies. "
Do you have any evidence to back that up?

[Old_Geezer]

Older people are probably less inclined to support change. So if the ones that opted to stay in the Common Market want out of the Union then the reasons must be good ones.

[AB Editor]

Jno, I think that the inbalance of demographic actually represents how more "mature" persons are more likely to vote than "young" people.

[jno]

rojash, the stats (for the survey which, as far as I can see, the Express misquotes) are broken down here

http://today.yougov.c...uGov-EURef-100910.pdf

I made up the bit about the colonies to cheer myself up as I have been to the dentist and my jaw is hurting. But the UK would have to find more trading partners somewhere if it left the union.

Whether the aged present a more "mature" view or just one they've got a little more muddled about

http://www.cathtatedirect.com/node/8181

who can say?

[anotheoldgit]

jno

/// and that older people in general are more likely to want to get out of Europe and resume trading with the colonies. So this poll might not produce the same result as a referendum held across all ages of society. ///

Since it is the more elderly who voted for a common market, they have every right to vote against the present EU.

England entered the EU in 1973, so anyone under the age of say 56 will not have had a say in whether or not we should be a member.

[emmie]

Jno you really are ageist, suggesting that anyone over the age of x is suffering from some form of mental deficiency, or being addled brained, and that we can't have an opinion, or one that matters.
AOG is correct, most people on AB wouldn't have been old enough to vote in 1973, and those that did perhaps didn't see what could happen, having been told that joining would be good for Britain, and it's trading partners.
That has gone by the by, and now we are facing an economic meltdown of unparallelled proportions, and no way seemingly to fix it.

[jno]

you think all those people (66%) who voted to stay in the common market were hopelessly gullible, em? Maybe so, everyone was too busy taking mind-altering drugs back then (or just too busy listening to Abba) to know what was really going on.

But how exactly will leaving the EU help us avoid this meltdown of unparallelled proportions?

[notasyoungasiwas]

jno how old are you? Don't you think you'll ever be 60 one day? Do you have relatives over 60? You're even referring to being 60 and over as 'aged' now. How much more offensive can you get? I'm sure my lovely 80 year old Mum would love to be 60 again. Age is relative and we do not all suddenly become ga ga when we reach 60!