Should we be concerned also?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail....s-divided-nation.html

This is what has been happening in England for years, but no think-tank or anyone else for that matter is prepared to address the matter.

[nannybooby]

oh dear I think that its a sad fact of life that cetain elements of society dont want to intergrate. Indians in Southall and the English onthe spanish costas, its not just asian and muslims , sorry aog ,dont beleive that athink tank will sort it out just waste more money.

[DTCwordfan]

So why don't you outline six bullet points on the actions you would take, AOG, if, God help us, you were in Number 10.

I and I think many others would be interested to see those.

It is very easy to come up with the problems but now let's see your leadership.

[rojash]

Oh, I think you'll find that it's been addressed on AB a number of times.

[jake-the-peg]

According to France's 1999 Census, 38% and 34% of male and female married immigrants, respectively, are intermarried. The highest intermarriate rate was for European immigrants, mainly Spanish and Italian, nearly 50% of whom have had intermarriages. 30% of North African immigrants and 20% of Portuguese immigrants have also had intermarriages. The lowest intermarriage rate was for Turkish immigrants, with 14% for married males and 4% for married females.[126]

http://en.wikipedia.o...acial_marriage#France

so with all these interacial marriages where's this divided nation?

Where's the failure of multiculturalism when people are marrying each other?

[ummmm]

As a result, France – whose five million Muslims make up Europe’s largest Islamic population

Not England? I'm shocked AOG.....from your posts I thought we were on the verge of becoming a Muslim country..

Have you ever spoke to a Muslim?

[Postdog]

I seem to recall seeing a telly programme concerning one of these area's near Paris, and it was a no go area for ordinary people. I wouldn't like the same happening here.

[jake-the-peg]

Do you believe everything on TV "documentries" PostDog?

[Postdog]

What a stupid response that was!

[DTCwordfan]

well having lived in Paris, most of us gave a big wide berth to Porte Cligancourt and the North, especially around the Stade Nationale. And I have never felt comfortable visiting the Stade for rugby and soccer internationals, unlike the Parc des Princes......so postdog has good reason in posting what he did.

[DTCwordfan]

I am still waiting for AOG's plan of action with bated breath......

[jake-the-peg]

Not really

You saw a documentry and took it at face value

I wondered why?

Do you believe all such documentries?
Was this particularly convincing?

Or perhaps it reinforced existing prejudices you had.

We have a tendency to accept evidence for things we believe and ignore evidence for things we disagree with


And tend to refer to challanges to our prejudices as "stupid responses"

[ichkeria]

France has, actually, long had a problem with its Arab (as opposed to simply Moslem) immigrant populations, which have grown up as an inevitable consequence of the imperial legacy on its doorstep.
The problems are socal and cultural and specific to France. I think its exacerbated by racism on the part of the "indigenous" community as much as anything else. Basically, the attitude which says "your values are not our values". It works both ways.
Generally, in Britain we have been much more accepting of "foreigners", which is something we should be proud of, while being aware of the potential drawbacks.

[DTCwordfan]

Tout a fait, ichkeria, completement en accord avec votre position.

[anotheoldgit]

Postdog

/// I seem to recall seeing a telly programme concerning one of these area's near Paris, and it was a no go area for ordinary people. I wouldn't like the same happening here.///

It is a sad fact that in some areas of English cities there are already 'no go' areas.

[DTCwordfan]

So what is your plan for remedy, then AOG......

[237SJ]

Well there are certainly problems in Paris if what some of my French colleagues say is anything to go by. I don`t know if we`ll eventually have the same problems here but I think if there are no-go areas in the UK, they`re not the Muslim ones. I could be more worried walking through some of the sink estates in this country that I would Muslim areas.

[Postdog]

And I was just about to put what was said by the OP above. As someone who lived on the outskirts of London until the beginningh of the year, I was aware that there were some areas you best avoid.

[rojash]

"It is a sad fact that in some areas of English cities there are already 'no go' areas."
True, but there pretty much always have been, and most of them were (and are) not Moslem enclaves.

[anotheoldgit]

/// So why don't you outline six bullet points on the actions you would take, AOG, if, God help us, you were in Number 10. ///

Too late now, if you had asked this question 50 odd years ago, then perhaps we could have helped to solve some of today's problems.

1. All British passports to be considered void, on the granting of independence from British rule.

2. Limit immigration to include only self financing skilled persons.

3. Immigrants to learn English, and then to apply for British citizenship.

4. Ban on certain items of clothing that is alien to our culture.

5. No dispensations from the law of the land

6. Restrictions on the type of architecture, that is liable to change the face of English towns, cities and villages.

[DTCwordfan]

One hour gone and I still see no action plan from AOG. It's easy to stir the shyte with sucf "facts", but not so easy to suggest well-reasoned solutions, is it, AOG?.....