what can't the law give a life sentence

[emmie]

for people like this, and leave them to rot in jail.

http://www.huffington...09.html?ncid=webmail1

[paddywak]

Personally I think some of them should get a death sentence

[emmie]

no, but leave them with little to do, and in a small cell, i can't see that these creatures are worth anything at all.

[emmie]

sorry that of course should be heading, why can't the law

[rojash]

I'd say that at the age of 27, a 28 year sentence probably feels like a life sentence.

[joko]

whilst i agree life should mean life... i hardly think 28 years is a light sentence!

[jake-the-peg]

It can - it does and it has here

Sentence does not mean prison

You can be sentenced to community service for example

I think you mean why don't they get a full life term

There are a number of categories where full life terms are recommended such as serial killers or certain categories of child murder.

http://en.wikipedia.o...ales#Whole_life_order

In this case it doesn't look as if there was substantial premeditation of pre- planning.

He was robbed and went to pick a fight with them after (not bright but never mind)

Do you really want to put that crime on the same level as someone who abducts, rapes and murders a child?

[emmie]

stabbed in the head, and the man dies, they should be locked up for life.

[emmie]

to suggest that because he remonstrated about the phone, that doesn't make it as serious as those you have quoted, seems the sort of attitude you see today, better not make a fuss, if you value your life. I don't understand this at all.

[exdc]

A current review of 'Hate Crime' could see the starting point for life sentence doubled to 30 yrs.

"The Act will also be updated so that where any offence is shown to be motivated by hostility towards the victim on the grounds of transgender, as well as race, religion, sexual orientation, and disability, sentences must be made more severe"

[jake-the-peg]

So you're suggesting that this crime *is* as serious as a child rapist and murderer who premeditates such a heinous crime?

These guys did not set out to murder their victim - if he hadn't decided to play "have-a-go-hero" he'd be alive today.

I'm not excusing their actions here but I think it's very important that punishments and crimes are proportionate and we don't lapse into a simplistic one size fits all sentencing policy

[EDDIE51]

What this means is that ONLY after they have served a minimum of 28 or 29 years can the parole board start to consider if they can be released on licence.
The decision is likedly to take another year or more so they can not expect to be out in under 30 years.( Realistically more like 35 years.)
Even if they are released it will only be 'on licence' so they can be recalled if they get into any trouble again as they have been given 'Life'
What ever happens these 2 are not going to be out until they are pensioners into their mid to late 60s.

[anotheoldgit]

Life should mean life, full stop.

If we are to tackle these street stabbings seriously, these type of crimes should be treated with zero tolerance.

These two monsters murderously stabbed this father in the head with a screwdriver, one has to ask, "why were they carrying a screwdriver around with them"?

http://www.dailymail....tml?ito=feeds-newsxml

[lcg]

to stab people in the head, of course, and as such, they should be jailed for life given the current sentencing circus. personally, i believe it should be an eye for an eye...somebody should stab both of them in the head. it would certainly save on keeping scum like that in prison.

[emmie]

JTP, that i am sorry is exactly what you are doing, refuse the thugs and get killed for your stance, vile beyond words.

[Brenden]

So we all stand there and let any thug rob us JTP without retaliation - if the victim were one of my precious family I would want them hung drawn and quartered.

[exdc]

Here is another example of tariffs set for life sentences (see bottom of page on attached link).

Five teenagers, who fatally stabbed a pupil at the start of the school day, have today been sentenced to a total minimum of 76 years' imprisonment

http://content.met.po...5545224/1257246745756

"the law on joint enterprise is clear and unforgiving"

[joko]

i dont believe in a 'one size fits all' type of situation - but i do think that calling 15 years a life sentence is a joke...

[EDDIE51]

Like for like lcg76?
So would you volunteer to stab them in the head ? in my opinion would that make you no better than they are.
If your suggestion was taken up we would have to recruit murders and rapists to 'administer justice'.