Tories "let liverpool rot"

[DrFilth]

new papers just released

>> Aware of how controversial his remarks would be, Sir
Geoffrey said “managed decline” was not a term for
general use. <<


>>The shocking revelations confirm what many had long
suspected about the Thatcher regime’s attitude towards
Merseyside and the North West in general. <<







http://www.mirror.co....cher-115875-23667400/

[TTG]

Someone should tell the Mirror that Thatcher is no longer prime minister.

[DTCwordfan]

so why did they appoint a Minister of Merseyside and one of the Tory heavyweights?

In all good sccenario planning, consideration of negative strategies and risks are part of the exercise - it strengthens the chosen framework of initiatives.

[old-wos-is-name]

The tories want the best for down south, as thats where all the large tax payers and all their mates live. I expect the scousers were regarded as dossers, all on the dole, why waste money on them??? lets spend the money on the rich, who don't need it, but are all pals of the public school tories. This may be the 21st Centuary, but I am sure this Government think the same as the thatcher regime. I listened to a progrsamme on radio 4, where the author of " boys from the black stuff" was interviewed. He summed it up by saying that Liverpool was now back in the sad old days, shops closing , everyone on the dole, government ignoring it.
Yosser Harris, all is forgiven!

[askyourgran]

<<New papers just released>> Ah! the National Archives of 1981. That was some time ago DrF. Maggie T, alas, doesn't know what day it is now. I rather liked the report further along about Pakistan, the Lebanon etc objecting to the Bingo Hall called the Mecca.

[bibblebub]

the beatification movie is about to be released so it seems reasonable for the Mirror to print the story

[Buenchico]

Hmmm.

ONE member of the Cabinet makes a suggestion, which is then REJECTED by the others. Can someone explain to me how that isolated suggestion can then be viewed as 'Tory policy'?

[seadogg]

Could the job of Minister for Merseyside have been a poisoned chalice to Hezeltine?

[ludwig]

This could prove devastating for the Tories. They can wave goodbye to their huge merseyside following if this ever gets out.

[anotheoldgit]

Before you all go into a raging Tory rant, let's get the real story.

/// The advice was rejected by Mrs Thatcher, who famously dispatched environment secretary Michael Heseltine as 'minister for Merseyside' to lead a programme of urban regeneration. ///

http://www.dailymail....ke-Toxteth-riots.html

[Slapshot]

My father in law was going ballistic about this yesterday and he comes from the other side of the river. When the government of any time never mind the 1980 thinks this about part of the country, says a lot about them and their ideology. Then again, Tory ideology is largely responsible for the lasck of growth in the economy, why civil servants are up in arms and why you are paying extortionate prices at the fuel pumps, it's all cash in the bank for them and their shareholder/banker buddies

[sandyRoe]

Did Heseltine's urban regeneration programme for Liverpool work?

[jno]

sure, sandyRoe, they're planning to ditch the world heritage status and look to the future

http://www.guardian.c...world-heritage-status

[jomifl]

The decline of Liverpool was nothing to do with the Tories or Labour, it was to do with the size of cargo ships. As competition for international trade became more fierce, ships were made bigger to improve their efficiency. Eventually they could not get into Liverpool docks from which the major part of Liverpool's economy flowed.

[DTCwordfan]

true jomifl - along with the decline of the cotton spinning and weaving industries as the cheap cost centres moved to the Far East and Indian sub continent, leaving the old Lancs high and dry.

[Slapshot]

decline of the ship building industry didn't help either..

[anotheoldgit]

Another thought,

If your child breaks up all it's Christmas toys on the first day, would you wait till the shops open again, to rush out and buy new ones?

I refer of course to the 'Toxteth riots'.

[jomifl]

Yes DT.. one of the ironies of the modern global economy is that industry moves to low cost centres (low wages, no unemployment pay, no health service, no pensions etc,) to make goods affordable to low paid people in the west. But, the low paid people then lose their jobs and the money has all gone to China and India. Hence the current economic mess. This is the success of the accounting society.

[jno]

the abolition of slavery was a blow, too