Lords obstructing the governement...

[d9f1c7]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16675314
Apart from the benefitees, who could possibly object to a benefit cap? How can a democracy let these unelected dinosaurs block the legitimate plans of the elected?

[youngmafbog]

You dont do anyone any favours by trapping them into a life of benefite. Although I think it is very wrong who can blame someone for wanting to stay on benefits when if they worked they would have to move to more moderate accomadation like the rest of us tax payers?


And this ludicrous idea of child benefit is off the planet, you just encourage more breeding.

Having said that I dont believe that a flat rate is acceptable, it needs to be adjusted for the parts of the country and safegaurds must be put in place to protect those for whome benfits are meant for, ie you are temporary out of work by no fault of your own.

Gromit, for once I agree with you. The country needs more social housing, but we do need to be careful of creating more sink estates. Pity Noo labour didnt do this when they had some money instead of daft left wing ideas and hundreds of '5 a day oc ordinators'

[Davethedog]

This lady sums it up for me:

http://www.fleetstree...se-this.html?spref=tw

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-16681617

We hear much of struggling single parents, those not in work who cannot make ends meet and child poverty.

But little is said from the silent OAPs who struggle even harder on their minuscule pension.

The basic pension is lower than the income support threshold, so if they have no other income, state pensioners can top up with income support. This comes in the form of a means-tested Pension Credit which brings the weekly amount up to £130 for a single person and £198.45 for a couple.

All pensioners over 80 years old get an age addition of 25p a week

[mickrog]

yes aog......but look where the money goes that we could have........career single moms with numerous kids from numerous men......they clearly need it more than us in the eyes of the government.....cut their money and give em condoms instead

[anotheoldgit]

mickrog

Would they know how to use them?

[THECORBYLOON]

anotheoldgit's Pension Credit figures are two years out of date. The current rate is £137.35 for a single person without any savings or income and up to another £20.52 if they have savings, couples can get £209.70 with no income or savings and up to another £27.09 if they have savings.

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

Where did you get those figures from? It doesn't make sense that a single person can get an extra £20.52 if they have savings, and a married couple gets an extra £27.09 if they have savings.

I admit my figures where out of date, although the web site stated it had recently been updated.

These are the rates for 2011-2012

http://www.direct.gov...tatePension/DG_188551

Basic State Pension rate per week, for 2011-12
Single man or woman £102.15

Married man or woman or civil partner (who qualify with their own National Insurance contributions) £102.15

Married man, woman or civil partner (using his wife’s, her husband’s or their civil partner’s National Insurance contributions record) £61.20

[THECORBYLOON]

In addition to the Guaranteed Credit element of Pension Credit, for folk 65 and over there is a Savings Credit and that is what I was referring to

[andres]

Please remember that even pension credit etc. is means tested and even if you do get it you are supposed to inform them if your income goes up by a few pounds. Its like ''big Brother '' is watching your every move. We kicked it in touch.

I read somewhere that the 'Lords' are allowed about £200 each for every time they put in an attendance. Not bad money for sleeping ,as a lot of them do!!!!!!