Ali Dizaei

[flip_flop]

How on earth did a thuggish dishonest lout like this ever manage to become a Commander in the Met?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...gland-london-16979424

[237SJ]

Positive discrimination?

[shoota]

The world doesn't know the half of it......

[Brenden]

Screaming "racism".

[jno]

started out the same as anyone else, I suppose, and worked his way up the ranks. Police work does offer opportunities for arrogance and corruption; some withstand it, some do not. He is not the first bent copper and will not be the last.

[sandyRoe]

You might think that 'thuggish' would be a quality they'd look for when recruiting.

[Gromit]

There were pleny of thuggish dishonest White louts who applied but they were overlooked because they had to reach a quota.

[abstibus]

He was also the national president of the National Black Police Association. Where do Iranians fit into this?

[Brenden]

He is Iranian by birth.

[sp1814]

annemollie

You don't have to be black to be a member.

[McMouse]

His card was marked.

[Brenden]

There should be no Black or Gay (there isn,t a white) police association, just National Police Association.

[sp1814]

Why does there need to be an association at all?

Why not local or regional groups?

I'm spitballing here...I really don't have much of an opinion to be honest!

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

Recently I have noticed a vast change in your attitude SP.

Did you make a New Years Resolution, or have you had a change of character.

Which ever it is, it is certainly a change for the better, and it certainly suits you.

And please do not take offence, I really mean this, and hope that in the future we can debate together without all that ill feeling we once had towards each other.

[New Judge]

I think what anne is asking, Brnden, is how are Iranians classed as "black"? However, that question needs not to be asked. The National Black Police Association is, apparently, open to all police officers. However, their "Mission Statement" would lead one to question why would any non-black officers wish to join:

"The National Black Police Association seeks to improve the working environment of Black staff by protecting the rights of those employed within the Police Service and to enhance racial harmony and the quality of service to the Black community of the United Kingdom."

If you were to substitute “white” for “black” in the above statement, I doubt the organisation would have got off the ground, and in fact may well have been declared illegal, but that’s another argument which has been aired a few times on AB.

For the last ten years at least Mr Desai’s career has been dogged – or perhaps identified by is a better description – by controversy surrounding his behaviour. He had been variously accused of perverting the course of justice and fraud in connection with is expenses. He wrote a book which vehemently criticised his senior managers and he had close associations with a corrupt lawyer whom he advised on how to undermine a prosecution being brought against him. Now he has been convicted (twice) of misconduct in public office and perverting the course of justice.

In any other business Desai would long ago have been dismissed. No company would have tolerated an employee so publicly critical of its organisation and senior managers. Nor would they have tolerated a worker who on more than one occasion had been accused of criminal offences or major breaches of discipline. However the Metropolitan Police, led for much of Desai’s career in the Capital by the inadequate and ineffective Ian Blair, was paralysed by fear of being accused of racism – which of course was very much part of Mr Desai’s game plan. Instead of getting to grips with the problem Blair leant over backwards to avoid controversy and far from being dealt with, Desai rose through the ranks.

Hopefully now the Met will be rid of the viper they have nurtured in their nest for so long. The force’s other officers – of all races – and more importantly the citizens of London deserve better than to have such a person serving at senior rank in their police force.

[Brenden]

NJ, I answered that way because I could find no mention of Iranians in this thread - have I missed something - is it another trip to specsavers?

[New Judge]

It just shows you, Brenden.

I thought ann was asking where Iranians fitted in to the NBPA (on the basis that Iranians are not “black”). You thought (I think) ann was asking where Iranians fit into this question and the answers.

At least, I think that what I (and you) thought !!!!

[Brenden]

Quite right NJ, have cancelled my specsavers appointment. Thank you.

[EDDIE51]

He is only 'suspended' from his job !!!
Does that mean he is still earning his £90,000 a year and earning pension ?
Why has he not been sacked with no pension !

[EDDIE51]

Just found this, seems he is not the only 'dodgy' officer in the Met , and that is only the ones they have found out about the clever ones are still in there.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16383538
If as seems reasonable only 10% get caught it is rather frightening.

[emmie]

one thing to mention please, is that not all police officers are corrupt thugs, some on here and in the media seem to forget that. Ali Desai seems a thoroughly unpleasant individual, who regardless of where he is from should not have been allowed to continue in the police force after being convicted the first time of a serious crime. Stripped of job, pension and however long he stays in prison this time should not be allowed another chance.